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slydini62
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I want to learn a memorized deck system. Which one is the easiest and best to use?

Thanks
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8 Kings is the only one I've used I'm sure there are plenty of others. I learned it off CardTrickCentral.com a couple of years ago.
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Take a deck, shuffle it well and memorize it.
it is the only way to be sure.
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On 2004-01-09 02:10, usa wrote:
it is the only way to be sure.


Sounds like an abstinence campaign.

An option I have heard good things about is the 6 Hour Memorized Deck by Martin Joyal.
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"Sounds like an abstinence campaign. "

no it's from the movie "alien II"
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On 2004-01-09 02:34, Decker wrote:
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On 2004-01-09 02:10, usa wrote:
it is the only way to be sure.


Sounds like an abstinence campaign.

An option I have heard good things about is the 6 Hour Memorized Deck by Martin Joyal.

This system will quite serve you well.Choose the SHoCkeD stack it is easier to remember.
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By memorized stack do you mean actually memorized as in think of a card and know from heart where in the deck it is and vice versa, or a system whereby given any card you can figure out which is next in the stack.

If it's the first I'd recommend the Nikola stack, although I have heard good things about the Aronson stack. Both are hard (in my opinion) to learn, but are very powerful, and have additional effects like poker deals built in.

If it's the latter then Osterlind's Mental Breakthrough System. Looks completely random, but it is a very easy system to learn
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If you`re looking for a system I would go with Si Stebbinis. Great system where all cards look thoroughly mixed Smile
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Why do you want to memorise a deck? What effect do you want to perform or is it just for the mental excercise?

If it'a for an effect, I can't recommend Alan Shaxon's NAME A CARD enough. It's awesome. Spectator just names a card and you IMMEDIATELY find it - with one action. Can be repeated again and again with spectators firing card names at you and you constantly finding them!

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HI Slydini62,

first if you intent to learn ANY memorized deck, you may want to search the subject using the "search: function on the top right corner of the forum's webpage.

Because in order to make a good sound decision you will want to look around and study the different memorized deck on the market (Joyal, Aronson, Tamariz, Rix, Green, Osterlind, Nikola, etc...) and see what each have to offer (pros & cons).

Please read this thread before going any further:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......=2&5

Hope this helps!

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The Osterlind system is good, so is the Cornelius system. Neither is an actual memorized stack, they are systems, but they accomplish the same thing.

The Nikola stack is excellent. Using it also gives you access to a mnemonic system.

If you don't know what you can do with a MEMORIZED stack as opposed to a system such as Stebbins or 8 Kings, then you need to look at the literature.

Better yet, DON'T look at the literature. Then those of us who know a memorized deck system can fool you!!!! Smile Smile Smile Smile
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I personally use the Aronson system because it was the first one I was exposed to and he has a lot of published material on it. It was the easy choice. I'm looking forward to the Tamariz works which are supposed to be coming out soon.
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The easiest deck to memorize is a one-way force deck, assuming you can remember one card. Smile

There are a variety of good systems for memorizing an entire deck. I use Martin Joyal's system for a variety of reasons but there's not one system that's best for everyone. You'll find a lot of information by using the search function.

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This is Darwin Ortiz' advice as well. I find it better than any specific stack.

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On 2004-01-09 02:10, usa wrote:
Take a deck, shuffle it well and memorize it.
it is the only way to be sure.
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The Si Stebbins is probably the easiest and you really don't have to memorize anything.

Whoever said to shuffle a deck and memorize it must not know anything about the subject as the stacks, such as Stebbins allow you to do some great effects.

The easiest, for example, is having a card selected, freely, and by cutting at that point, a look at the bottom card tells you the name of the selection.

There is MUCH MUCH MORE... if you are good with your memory, then the Aronson is used by many of the top guys... as well as the Nicola.

The big thing is you have to do it ALL THE TIME.

One of the really top guys told me "Now that I have a regular gig, working almost every night, I can start to use the Aronson stack. It takes daily use."
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I'm not sure which system it is, but in Scarne On Card Tricks there was one that is pretty easy for specific effects.

You have a number system for the cards and suits and can tell fairly easily, for example, which cards have been removed from a large packet of cards...or the whole deck if you're fast at adding numbers! It's great because spades=0 and anytime your total is over 10, you drop the zero/tens spot ...14 is 4..10 is 0...12 is 2 etc so it's easy to keep track.
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Try Doug Dyment's QUICKSTACK

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On 2004-01-09 02:10, usa wrote:
Take a deck, shuffle it well and memorize it.
it is the only way to be sure.


The only way to be sure about WHAT, exactly?! My vote is for the Joyal stack. It's not a hard one to learn, it appears random, and you know where every card is, unlike the 8 kings, Sy Stebbins, or BCS. You can do some wonderful effects only knowing the next card (check Osterlind's DVD #2) but for about 6 hours (according to Joyal; it took me less time)you can learn the positions of ALL of the cards relative to each other. If the former is good enough for the effects you want to do, then I'd take BCS over 8 kings or Sy Stebbins, because you can spread the deck face up (or leave the cards behind), and nobody would suspect a stack.
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At the end of the day you are going to have to sit down at some time and atually learn the order so its up to you. But personally I would go witht eh aronson stack as it can be used to perform miracles.
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