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Athos
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Hello café,
Some of you might be aware that I am back on the café however I am mostly talking to people privately through the private message tool or Skype. Through speaking with people about various ideas they came up with how Deus Ex Machina has been talked about a lot. A lot of things have moved around in my life, I was still in my teenager years when I published the original system for DEM readings, however it is still something that I perform today, six years later.

I must say that the café community has always been moving, inspiring and a great resource to me, please keep in mind that this post is not written to belittle anyone's work or value. It is absolutely vital to me that you understand this.

I steered away from selling or buying magic for a very long time, therefore I have not been able to get my hands on the more recent works of which original owners claimed to have a parallel thinking to DEM. My intent in publishing it in the first place was to share the ideas and not gain any financial profit from it, as you might know DEM has been pulled off the market very fast. I am sure that any version or parallel thinking of this effect is brilliant and truly deserved to be shared with the community. I am also certain that the idea came from one's individual process of creating something of their own values.

If you are a full time working entertainer you probably already know how hard it is to land a gig especially when our art is so unknown and the nature or result of our show is unpredictable to some extent. Anything that you can use to give yourself an edge over competition might be money you will need a month from now to reach your ends. Unless you get your hands on a producer to feature you on the next TV show, being a magician does not always put you in the best of financial positions... I totally understand the point behind selling a brain children and showing it to the community in hopes for profits, and I respect that. DEM does appeal to a very narrow market, and I have yet to hear about or see someone performing DEM the ways that I initially described it in 2007. I believe claiming ownership of an idea is a fallacy and something that close shut the door to better creations, better inventions and life changing discoveries.

However I have heard about fantastic versions and handling of DEM and I am truly rejoiced that the idea did stir some interest in the community, and this to me much greater than any financial gains I could have retained from it. Even though I have never been approached or asked my permission to use the idea as a base to new developments: I do have to say that I was hard to get ahold of during that period of time.

I hope I can keep sharing new material of the same nature in the following years, however maybe not in the same ways that I initially thought magic should be shared in the first place.

Passion is to me, the driving element of sharing.
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Hi Maxime,

We’ve had a fairly long time to mull over thoughts which seem to have a great deal of potential for us, and yet they had not fully formed to our satisfaction until recently.

Then came along your wonderful publication - and it was not only solving several issues we had in our corresponding ideas; more than this it was inspiring on several levels!

Anyway, ... we adapted your idea and used it a lot - before we shared our take in a lecture of ours and its corresponding lecture notes. Obviously we did this with full credit to your name, your inspirational work and explicitly recommending to get hold of your inspiring book Deus Ex Machina.

Now, I would have loved to be in touch with you in advance - but that wasn't that easy (your book contains no contact data, google offered no hints, ...). Anyway - right now I want to take the chance to thank you for your work! I would love to send you our corresponding lecture notes if you provide me a shipping address.

Take care
Th.
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Thank you Thomas,
I am very happy that you took the time to properly refine the idea and share it in a better form! I have seen older posts on the café of other users clearly answering on my behalf and without my consent without any information whatsoever about me or the work underlined. I only wanted to answer myself in the ways that this issue has to be properly discussed. As people know DEM is not in the market anymore and therefore I direct them to your product if they wish to know more about it.

Best,

Max.
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I am sure I am not the only person thinking this. What is the product at Paralabs?
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On Apr 4, 2014, jstreiff wrote:
I am sure I am not the only person thinking this. What is the product at Paralabs?

We never published this routine separately. This is mainly because the initial technical idea was not ours but Maxime's.
As mentioned our take was just part of our lecture notes for a talk we gave in London 2012 on the topic of 'Sense and Meaning' in mentalism acts and performances.

So talking about "a product" isn't correct anyway technically.

Best Regards
Th.
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On Apr 4, 2014, ParaLabs - Thomas wrote:
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On Apr 4, 2014, jstreiff wrote:
I am sure I am not the only person thinking this. What is the product at Paralabs?

We never published this routine separately. This is mainly because the initial technical idea was not ours but Maxime's.
As mentioned our take was just part of our lecture notes for a talk we gave in London 2012 on the topic of 'Sense and Meaning' in mentalism acts and performances.

So talking about "a product" isn't correct anyway technically.

Best Regards
Th.



is it in your book/notes on sense and meaning that you sold at mindvention recently?
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We repeated the London lecture (in a little modified way) at Mindvention, yes.
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Those lecture notes are great!
Best Thoughts,

Joe Atmore
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Both Maxime's ebook and the mentioned Paralab's lecture notes are excellent. Both contain inspiring thinking.

It's good to have you posting Maxime. Welcome back.

Sincerely,

Sean
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