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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1191 Posts	Posted: Apr 7, 2014 04:30 pm 0 It sure buys acquaintances! "Torture doesn't work" lol Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us."
MobilityBundle Regular user Las Vegas/Boston 120 Posts	Posted: Apr 7, 2014 06:16 pm 0 Quote: On Apr 7, 2014, General_Magician wrote: I've never known anybody who got rich quick and actually kept the money. To my knowledge, most lottery winners who hit the million dollar jackpot eventually lost it all along with most sports super-stars. I bought a former NFL player a drink at a bar one time and he talked about he went through his millions and was now bankrupt. I am not a football fan, so when I bought him a drink I never recognized him and just thought he was a regular joe. I didn't believe him at first when he told me he played for the NFL. He told me that NFL stood for "Not For Long" because of all the injuries in football. I guess the same would be true for keeping their millions. The "Wolf of Wall Street" certainly didn't keep his millions either. That's why I say, it takes a great deal of time to build wealth and that's probably one of the essential ingredients to keep the wealth along with good money management skills and financial education. Rome wasn't built in a day. People want to get rich quick, but you know anything worth having also requires patience. Their is no getting rich quick and then keeping your wealth in my experience. You're moving the goalposts. First you said one couldn't get rich quick. Now you're saying that one who gets rich quick can't stay rich. I agree with neither proposition. Many have my clients have gotten rich pretty quick. Their story is along the lines of, (a) be smart, (b) come up with an awesome idea (c) file a patent application, (d) build a company, (e) [optionally] graduate, (f) get acquired for a lot of money. I have seen that happen inside the span of a few years. Of course, I don't mean to suggest that they don't work hard... they do. But it's quick. Less dramatically, a related trajectory in Silicon Valley is (a) get a job at an elite Google-type company, (b) hang on for dear life until your stock options vest, (c) get rich. Now, one might reasonably believe that one or two million bucks in Silicon Valley doesn't make one "rich," but it does in the rest of the world. Again, step (b) involves a LOT of work, but typically it only takes a few years to vest. There's no evidence these types of people don't hang on to their money. In fact, in my experience, they do. So maybe you want to revise your statement yet again: it's impossible to get rich quick, unless one either (a) works REALLY hard, or (b) gets rich quick?
General_Magician Special user United States 707 Posts	Posted: Apr 7, 2014 06:48 pm 0 You are over-analyzing and overthinking things. I am not going to change what I said because I meant what I said. Do you think Warren Buffet got rich quick? He didn't think he got rich quick. Define "quick." Quote: It sure buys acquaintances! Smile Let's not start over-analyzing and overthinking or un-necessarily complicating things now Lobo. Let's just keep it simple. Simple works best. This isn't a courtroom either where there is always an argument to be made no matter what the facts prove or what that the objective truth really is, trying to sway a jury to your side of the equation despite what the facts say and what the objective truth really is. This is just the Magic Café with normal every day mortals. "Never fear shadows. They simply mean there is a light shining somewhere nearby." -unknown Company Website Facebook Business Page Twitter Business Page
mastermindreader V.I.P. Seattle, WA 12589 Posts	Posted: Apr 7, 2014 06:55 pm 0 Oh- Because Warren Buffet didn't get rich quick, that means no one does. (Or if they do, they don't keep it- except for Bill Gates, Paul Allen and the guys who do.) Got it. Bob Cassidy Professional Consulting Sessions for Mentalists The Workshop
General_Magician Special user United States 707 Posts	Posted: Apr 7, 2014 07:00 pm 0 Quote: On Apr 7, 2014, mastermindreader wrote: Oh- Because Warren Buffet didn't get rich quick, that means no one does. (Or if they do, they don't keep it- except for Bill Gates, Paul Allen and the guys who do.) Got it. We all got to have our heroes. Warren Buffet is one of my heroes . "Never fear shadows. They simply mean there is a light shining somewhere nearby." -unknown Company Website Facebook Business Page Twitter Business Page
LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1191 Posts	Posted: Apr 7, 2014 07:06 pm 0 He's a great hero, but your experiences (and your heroes' experiences) are not universal. "Torture doesn't work" lol Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us."
General_Magician Special user United States 707 Posts	Posted: Apr 7, 2014 10:37 pm 0 Quote: On Apr 7, 2014, LobowolfXXX wrote: He's a great hero, but your experiences (and your heroes' experiences) are not universal. I think some truths are universal. Now, what I think is a universal truth, others might not with agree with my view on what I think is a universal truth. Then some might think that their is no such thing as a universal truth. Perhaps one universal truth is that many things appear to be paradoxical. "Never fear shadows. They simply mean there is a light shining somewhere nearby." -unknown Company Website Facebook Business Page Twitter Business Page
LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1191 Posts	Posted: Apr 7, 2014 10:46 pm 1 I agree that some truths are universal. "Torture doesn't work" lol Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us."
AllAboutMagic Veteran user California 333 Posts	Posted: Apr 7, 2014 11:18 pm 0 Why are you arguing with GM? Haven't you tried this before? He is right and the world is wrong.
tommy Eternal Order Devil’s Island 16200 Posts	Posted: Apr 7, 2014 11:25 pm 0 One must be very careful about lending or borrowing I would say. The loan sharks will eat you for breakfast if you are not careful. One thing that helps to make money is building and taking care of ones credit rating. Aristotle Onassis, the Greek shipping tycoon, said that it's most important to build and take care of ones credit rating and he used some cleaver tricks to build his. He built a kind of illusion of wealth to begin with. If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it. Tommy
MobilityBundle Regular user Las Vegas/Boston 120 Posts	Posted: Apr 8, 2014 03:26 pm 0 Quote: On Apr 7, 2014, General_Magician wrote: I think some truths are universal. Now, what I think is a universal truth, others might not with agree with my view on what I think is a universal truth. I don't think "universal" means what you think it means.
General_Magician Special user United States 707 Posts	Posted: Apr 8, 2014 03:29 pm 0 And I don't think what you think universal means universal. So, I have my convictions and I am not going to part with my convictions on what I think what universal means, simply because you don't agree with my views on what I think universal means. You have your convictions on what you think universal means and I never expected you to part with your convictions but I am not going to part with mine either just to appease you. I am still going to hold fast to what I think is right and true, even if others don't agree with me. That's just the way it's going to be and nothing is going to change it. "Never fear shadows. They simply mean there is a light shining somewhere nearby." -unknown Company Website Facebook Business Page Twitter Business Page
mastermindreader V.I.P. Seattle, WA 12589 Posts	Posted: Apr 8, 2014 05:22 pm 0 The dictionary will tell you what "universal" means. It's not a matter of opinion. It means "every," "all" and "always." It's not "appeasing" anyone to simply use words correctly. Bob Cassidy Professional Consulting Sessions for Mentalists The Workshop
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