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Kabbalah
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On Jan 10, 2015, R2D2 wrote:
I know this thread is a little old, but I wanted to second The Fritz's comments about getting Card College instead of the older texts such as ECT and RRTCM. CC is far clearer, and sometimes I'm not even sure how people *ever* learned from the older books. (If you really want a challenge, try reading Sachs' "Sleight of Hand"!)


I don't know whether to Smile or Smile.
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On Jan 10, 2015, Kabbalah wrote:
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On Jan 10, 2015, R2D2 wrote:
I know this thread is a little old, but I wanted to second The Fritz's comments about getting Card College instead of the older texts such as ECT and RRTCM. CC is far clearer, and sometimes I'm not even sure how people *ever* learned from the older books. (If you really want a challenge, try reading Sachs' "Sleight of Hand"!)


I don't know whether to Smile or Smile.


Great answer !!
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On Jan 10, 2015, R2D2 wrote:
I know this thread is a little old, but I wanted to second The Fritz's comments about getting Card College instead of the older texts such as ECT and RRTCM. CC is far clearer, and sometimes I'm not even sure how people *ever* learned from the older books. (If you really want a challenge, try reading Sachs' "Sleight of Hand"!)


I don't know whether to Smile or Smile.


Neither do I Kabbalah but I'm leaning toward Smile

I can't imagine ever telling one of my professors that I can't understand how people EVER learned from primary source material. The brain drain continues.

@R2D2: I've read Sleight of Hand and found it to be a superb book, so, what is your point?
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>@R2D2: I've read Sleight of Hand and found it to be a superb book, so, what is your point?

I've learned a bit from it as well. My point is just that writing (esp. wrt performing individual sleights) has just gotten much, much clearer over the years. People figure out how to simplify explanations and relate different topics to each. Compare learning calculus from a primary text that Newton wrote vs. a modern calculus textbook. I don't know about you but I find the latter *much* more understandable. You could snicker and point to the "brain drain", but I have a feeling that you learned math from a textbook written years after the actual techniques were initially developed.
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On Jan 16, 2015, R2D2 wrote:
>@R2D2: I've read Sleight of Hand and found it to be a superb book, so, what is your point?

Compare learning calculus from a primary text that Newton wrote vs. a modern calculus textbook. I don't know about you but I find the latter *much* more understandable. You could snicker and point to the "brain drain", but I have a feeling that you learned math from a textbook written years after the actual techniques were initially developed.


The following history is about Niels Abel, a master algebraist; it is neither about calculus nor magic

"Asked how he had done all this in the six or seven years of his working life, Abel replied, 'By studying the masters, not the pupils'.”
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Alicauchy- Given your profile photo, I'm not surprised to hear this anecdote from you. Smile
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Alicauchy- Given your profile photo, I'm not surprised to hear this anecdote from you. Smile


I am still wondering why !!

Seriously, here is a lot of good scientific books from old and contemporary authors, and this also happens in magic. The fact that some books have passed the test of time is something to take into account.
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Nick Trost has a good series out: Subtle Card Creations. The appendix on vol I is like 50 or 60 pages explaining all the sleights he uses in the book. He gives a brief but good description of each sleight. I have augmented it with YouTube teachers as well (not the reveal video kids...)

I only have Vols 1-3 and it is really good so far...
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