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RNK Inner circle 7491 Posts |
I think it's so impressive to lay people because big Joker is inserted in any position of the deck.take care of a blank deck just makes it more impressive to them because they think to themselves,"how did I place that Joker to the position of the only printed card in the deck".
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RNK Inner circle 7491 Posts |
Sorry for last post. Darn smart phones are not to smart!! Lol
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
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On May 15, 2014, magic_tony wrote: An amateur sees value in method. A pro sees value in impact. Facts you will come to appreciate in time.
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Philippe Special user 771 Posts |
I dread it uses r+s!
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
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On May 17, 2014, Philippe wrote: Put your fishing rod away! Buy the effect if you want to know the method.
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Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts |
If Jamie is saying this is good then by jingo it must be.
I do have slight misgivings that the blanks are a step too far..wouldn't it scream force to a spectator...maybe I'm over thinking it with my planet sized brain. |
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
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On May 17, 2014, Ray Chelt wrote: Great point Ray. To kick, or not to kick. That is the question. You've got me thinking. I will try both ways and report back on my experience.
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Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts |
I'm probably over thinking.
There are different types of spectator and those who just want to be amazed and not analyse will be blown away by this. I think the more analytical type still won't have a clue how you found their card but will know it was forced on them. But to no great detriment. And anyway, stuff the analytical problem solving spectators, we should set UKIP on them. |
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RNK Inner circle 7491 Posts |
In my experience so far no one thought the card was forced BECAUSE they insert the joker ANYWHERE they want in the deck.
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Dave Forrest Special user Scotland 857 Posts |
Re: The blank deck kicker. magic_tony and Ray Chelt make a good point and it's one I also considered at length.
At first glance, the blank deck would appear to weaken the effect because it seems to make plain that the outcome MUST have been pre-determined/forced. I thought this too but, when you think about it, this is actually facetious reasoning because, if all the cards are shown to be regular/different at the end, the same impossibility is present. The likelihood of the outcome is EXACTLY the same. For lay people though (who do not think about these things to this extent anyway) the blank deck instantly answers any potential lingering questions - "Are they all the Jack of Clubs?", "Is there a bank of Jack of Clubs?", "Is every other card the Jack of Clubs?". While a regular deck of all different cards CAN be used to quench these suspicions, to my mind, nothing does it more efficiently or dramatically than the blank deck. Under scrutiny, what would appear to lean towards the method is actually a HUGE throw-off because whatever guesses they may be making in their head, they're definitely not expecting the blanks so, all avenues are instantly shut down - game over. Here's an experiment for those who own Loxley: In a deck of double facers the Joker has a spot card printed on its back - normally, a 5H or 6S I think? Do the necessary and use that card and the other 'special cards' with a regular deck (discarding the card that matches the reverse of the Joker and the JC, of course) and perform Loxley as normal. I think you'll find it's still a 'good' trick but I bet you'll very quickly return to the blank deck ending because, put very simply, it provides MUCH more impact and just FEELS more impossible, even though technically, it's not. Strange but true. All the best, Dave.
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Ross W Inner circle UK 1778 Posts |
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On May 21, 2014, Dave Forrest wrote: I'm very interested in this discussion, because of something that happened to me this weekend. I showed Loxley to two friends. They are not magicians, but have seen many tricks of mine and provide honest feedback. He opened his messages, looked at the photo, marvelled at the accuracy of my prediction, and when I revealed the kicker blanks... ...they both gave a little sigh of disappointment. In the chat that followed, they confessed that they had NO idea how it was done (they still don't!) but that SOMEHOW the revelation of the blanks made it seem "mechanical". One of them actually said that the blanks, "made it look like something you bought from a magic shop." They asked me if it could be done with just a regular deck and I said it could: they thought that that would be much more impressive. I dunno though...I still like the blanks!! PS Why "Loxley" Dave? |
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
Ross, I have been performing this with and without the kicker as an experiment.
The results, when I'm ready to share, will make for some interesting reading.
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
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On May 21, 2014, Jamie Ferguson wrote: Very much look forward to your thoughts |
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Dave Forrest Special user Scotland 857 Posts |
All interesting stuff. Maybe there is no right or wrong answer, y'know? I mean, it may depend entirely on the audience but I certainly look forward to any and all feedback.
Ross - Robin of 'Loxley' a.k.a. Robin Hood. The name actually comes from an earlier version that was presented with more of a bent towards the 'accuracy' of them stabbing their card at just the right spot, between two cards. I would use the analogy of Robin Hood's arrow splitting another arrow to play up the impossibility of them finding just that one spot in the deck with no margin for error. The presentation and plot changed over time but, as I liked it so much, the name remained. All the best, Dave.
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inaciolino Veteran user 369 Posts |
Use two spectators. The 1st "freely" chooses a card from one deck and the 2nd insert the Joker on the Loxley's Deck. Doing this way you can use the "kicker". I hope it helps!!!
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PTan New user 5 Posts |
Will this be available at all the usual dealers? Thanks
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Romano911 Loyal user 287 Posts |
^ wondering that as well.
Commonly known as Mariano Blanco.
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
Here you go...
http://www.magicbox.uk.com/loxley-by-david-forrest.html And check out the quote at the end of the product description, thoughts from a real working pro
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Romano911 Loyal user 287 Posts |
Thanks for the info Jamie, actually was wondering if this is going to be distributed in the US, though may go ahead and buy from the UK if not.
Commonly known as Mariano Blanco.
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Dave Forrest Special user Scotland 857 Posts |
Hey Romano911, most dealers are now carrying Loxley including those in the US.
Many thanks, Dave.
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