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On Apr 19, 2014, Meng wrote:


...3.) Please, please, PLEASE delete this part:
"David got interested in magic when he first seen Derren Brown on Channel 4. After seeing this..."

Meng


When he first SEEN Derren Brown?

If that quote is accurate you really need to check the grammar on your site. It should be "when he first SAW..."

Misspellings and grammatical errors are just plain amateurish. A booker reading that would probably just shake his head.

Professional communications should be just that - professional.
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On Apr 19, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:

When he first SEEN Derren Brown?

If that quote is accurate you really need to check the grammar on your site. It should be "when he first SAW..."

Misspellings and grammatical errors are just plain amateurish. A booker reading that would probably just shake his head.

Professional communications should be just that - professional.



The quote is accurate. Copied directly from his website. But I honestly believe it shouldn't be corrected but removed.
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I agree. But I think the point is valid nonetheless. There is nothing that can destroy a professional image more quickly than misspellings and poor grammar. People WILL evaluate you based on the way that you write and express yourself.

We're not talking about forum posts or text messages, but professional business communications.
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On Apr 19, 2014, Clel-Mentalist wrote:
It is a Bit of wirk in progress. I don't see why I can't have the video to be honest. Care to elaborate?


Forgetting the filming quality these videos say to a booker that you have not yet performed in front of a real audience. Now I don't know whether you have or not but as a booker I would expect your videos to be filmed during actual gigs, if not, my first thought would be have you actually done any real gigs.

If you are going to have videos you want ones that include genuine audience reactions including laughter, applause, or other indications that your audience is enthralled and entertained. Bookers are not buying your tricks they are buying you and the impact you will have on their intended audience.

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I agree with the above posters.

If you look at my website (In my signature) you will see that there are only photos of me performing at gigs.

It's not all that hard to get footage of yourself performing in the real world. Charity events, cub scout groups, high schools, after school programs, variety clubs. Just approach any of those places and I'm sure they would be happy to let you film for them in exchange for a free show.
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On Apr 19, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:
I agree. But I think the point is valid nonetheless. There is nothing that can destroy a professional image more quickly than misspellings and poor grammar. People WILL evaluate you based on the way that you write and express yourself.

We're not talking about forum posts or text messages, but professional business communications.


And it's doubly important for a mentalist or 'magician of the mind' where the implied claim is for some kind of super intelligence.

Mike
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Offered with respect because you asked:

1) The videos don't help you at all. On the contrary. Suggest you delete the page.
2) Avoid the stock photos (party magician etc.) as they make you look very small. Do you have no photos performing for real audiences?
3) No one cares about why you started performing mentalism...or what channel you saw Darren on.
4) Where are testimonials from clients?

Hopefully this helps.

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Good thoughts I take on board your criticism. However, in response I'm really just starting out performing at gigs. I havnt really done any other than stuff for friends.

I'm an experienced amateur. I havnt taken video footage or photos before. I'm looking to move to the next step and start doing gigs . So yes, my footage is homemade, I have no photos at gigs.

But surely we all start somewhere? We all decide to stop performing for friends n family and decide that this is what we want to do. I'm sorry I don't have the footage of a pro who has been working, but surely at one point those pros didn't have any either
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On Apr 20, 2014, Clel-Mentalist wrote:
Good thoughts I take on board your criticism. However, in response I'm really just starting out performing at gigs. I havnt really done any other than stuff for friends.

I'm an experienced amateur. I havnt taken video footage or photos before. I'm looking to move to the next step and start doing gigs . So yes, my footage is homemade, I have no photos at gigs.

But surely we all start somewhere? We all decide to stop performing for friends n family and decide that this is what we want to do. I'm sorry I don't have the footage of a pro who has been working, but surely at one point those pros didn't have any either


The chance of you getting booked without customer testimonials or footage of you performing in the real world is rather slim I'm sorry. What I suggest you do (as per my above post) is do a few charity gigs. Get some experience with how to handle an audience in the real world. Bring a video camera along and have a friend film you. Ask for testimonial afterwards. That way you won't only get great stuff for your site, but you will gain experience on how to perform in front of a real audience Smile
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I'll give it a go.
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It's generally best to have a show that you've successfully performed for paying audiences before you start advertising and saying that your ready to perform anywhere in the UK and in the world.

Keep in mind that all of this is meant as constructive criticism. Why learn lessons the hard way when many of us have already done it for you?

We want you to succeed because that would benefit the art. It would be easy for us just to say, "That's a great site! Terrific!" but we'd be doing you no favors.

I do a lot of consulting for television, stage and corporate mentalists and they don't pay me just to sit there and smile and tell them how great they are. My job is to help create a successful show that adds to the reputation of the performer.

The ironic thing, though, is that people tend to value advice more highly when they've paid for it. You've gotten some excellent advice here for free. What you do with it is up to you.
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But surely we all start somewhere? We all decide to stop performing for friends n family and decide that this is what we want to do. I'm sorry I don't have the footage of a pro who has been working, but surely at one point those pros didn't have any either

Many still don't. You don't need a website or videos to get work, but if you do have those things you will be judged on them. When I started out it was a lot easier because there were no such thing as websites and video's. A business card and some 8 by 10 glossy's was about it. However before I even contemplated getting paid work I found ways to get in front of real audiences. This included talent contests, open mic nights and busking in Covent Garden (the latter being a good teacher because if you aren't entertaining, people don't wait around watching and you don't get paid). I also got chances to perform at a few weddings.

By the time I was ready to start charging a fee for real work I had a pretty polished act and a reasonable amount of experience of working to largish audiences. Had such things as websites and showreels been needed I'd have had more than enough opportunities to get suitable footage. As far as "we all have to start somewhere". That is very true but you certainly don't want a booker to know they are your very first paying customer, it will not give them any confidence in your ability and you will represent too big a risk.

By the same token you owe it to a booker to be ready for that gig, a paid gig is not the place to discover that you suffer from debilitating stage fright in front of a large audience and it's most definitely not the place to find out that your material doesn't flow or your lines don't work. Going from performing tricks in front of friends and family to doing a paid gig in front of a hall full of complete strangers is a massive leap and far harder than many people realise.

Mark
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Updated again removed videos. Uploaded real performance from wedding fair I attended yesterday. Fixed grammar.
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