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Hello, All.

I'd like to increase my general understanding of metalism, to help my overall magic and any "mental magic" I might try. I'm not sure I will really be doing pure mentalism, however.

I was wondering what resources are recommended for someone like me.
I understand that the 13 steps book and Artful Mentalism (I can only find Vol 2) may be good choices. I have Maximum Entertainment, Psychological Subtleties vol 1 and have ordered Naked Mentalism 1-3 (it sounded interesting). Psychometry A-Z also sounds interesting, as does Divine (I understand it goes into "why" things work, which I think might help me) and the Multiplicity DVD.

Are there any other books (or videos) that you could recommend?

thanks,

Frank
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The above are certainly great resources. Larry Becker's "Stunners" is full of wonderful material. I believe this is available as an ebook from Lybrary.com
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I've got the same birthday as mr becker, just a different year...

anyway - this is pretty nifty from what I remember...
http://www.lybrary.com/mentalism-for-mag......c30fb57b
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Even better! Thanks Iain.
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Check Theodore Annemann.

The Jinx
Practical Mental Effects.
The Rain Man Glimpse

Effect: The mentalist memorize any kind of information in less than a second. $5
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'Magic to Mentalism' by Max Gordon. Can't find his site any more, but some details and a paypal address are on this thread:
http://www.magicbunny.co.uk/phpBB2/viewt......6a081838

(I'd recommend shooting an email to that paypal account first to check that he's still there)
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Thanks, Everyone!

Of the more modern books, would Divine be a good choice to get? From what I've read, it goes into an explanation of why things work and what spectators might be thinking, which sounds useful to help me understand the concepts involved.

Frank
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Divine is a great book, but I'm not quite sure how fitting it would be simply because if I remember correctly there a certain amount of assumed knowledge of mentalism by Colin of the readers of the book.
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Probably not what you want to hear, but! you've already got more than enough to expand your current knowledge on the subject...

it depends on what you want to do more of... there's more than enough excellent material in the books you already own to get performing with, and tinkering with...eugene burger has some marvelous books on the experience of magic itself, as does robert e neale....but that's about it..

you've already got all the techniques you'll need the books you already own, so its better if you put together a 3 effect mini-set and start messing around with the presentations, and see how they go down...that's what I'd do anyway..

once you've got the three 'ready' rehearsal wise - you can think deeper about character, how to tie them all together, which goes first, second and third and so on...
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Start with Dunninger, Annemann and Corinda.

Then go into modern mentalism, otherwise it's likely you won't understand the "big picture" of the modern art.
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On Apr 19, 2014, John Linden wrote:
Start with Dunninger, Annemann and Corinda.


As the literature from Corinda and Annemann are well known classics of mentalism literature, could someone point out a "must read" of Dunningers works? A quick seach suggested to me there are over 20 books published. What is essential? Thank you!

-hans
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None of Dunninger's books are essential. Most were promotional pieces written for the general public. His biography, "Dunninger's Secrets," though, is a quirky but interesting book.

Click on "The 39 Steps" in my signature below to read my commentary on the thirty-nine books I consider essential to a working mentalist. It's free.)

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Bob
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The vast majority of Literature ascribed to Dunninger was written by Lustig, Gibson and later on Some by Lund. He never revealed his methods - though that is what I have covered in my writings. From a promotional standpoint, his work was very effective.
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No doubt, Joe. But he wrote nothing that could be considered canonical in the literature of mentalism. (Funny enough, it was David Lustig who wrote the fairly influential "Vaudeville Mentalism.")
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True indeed Bob! And it is either that Lustig book or another one (can't remember) about the blindfold "drive" with a horse and buggy. Now that was a perfect method if it rings a bell with you Smile
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Yes it was! But it would have been a lot more impressive if they blindfolded the horse. Smile
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Hey! This is a public forum!!! Hahahahaha
Best Thoughts,

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Dunninger Show Recreation;
Author of Dunninger Knows and Dunninger's Brain Busters

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Thanks, Mr. Cassidy! I hope I can find a copy of your Artful Mentalism (v1) soon Smile.

Frank
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Ftlum,

Some great recommendations here.
I loved 13 steps and PME (that is literally by my laptop as I write). Also, Banachek's Psychological Subtleties is worth reading.
And our own Bob Cassidy's 39 Steps will sort you out.

I wish I had read them first as I would have saved myself the embarrassment of a lot of naïve newbie questions!

Good luck
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