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Mozart New user Rochester, MN 80 Posts |
I've been playing with the old hypno-trick of spraying ether onto a plant to make it sleep (droop). Thus far I've had little success and am curious if I'm missing something. I'm using undiluted Ethyl Ether (Diethyl Ether) sprayed from a small pump bottle and have tried a few common house plants like lilies and daisies. Can anyone offer suggestions?
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Mozart New user Rochester, MN 80 Posts |
146 views and not one suggestion? I thought for certain that mindpunisher, mindpro or Doyle would weigh in : )
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Woodfield Special user 756 Posts |
Sorry, I don't use plants in my shows.
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seadog93 Inner circle 3200 Posts |
I've seen that before and never been clear on what relationship it has to hypnosis.
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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
Yes whats it got to do with a hypnosis show?
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Mozart New user Rochester, MN 80 Posts |
If you're like me, most shows tend to drag a bit after the first 60 minutes - regardless of the charisma of the performer or the quality of the routines (i.e., give a suggestion - volunteers respond - build on their responses - go onto next routine). Hypno-tricks are useful when you need to break up that pattern.
Imagine gesturing to a plant-filled stage and every plant suddenly droops as if going into trance. You don't have to say a word. The audience assumes it's something you've done. Imagine hooking up a volunteer to a pulse oximeter, suggesting that their heart rate is slowing and watching as it does so to a point where it's hard to detect. Our predecessors built reputations on stunts like these. Sometimes, I get the feeling that the current crop of hypnotists has forgotten that this is supposed to be a theatrical experience. That means sound, lights, props, staging, scripting and pacing. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
You should work more on your show if it regularly drags after 60 minutes I agree.
I do not have that problem. And if you think this is going to help, I would have to see it and not have to imagine it. I can not imagine taking the time to do something so incoherent as hooking a pulse meter up to a volunteer. Yea maybe you should see the shows prior to judging the theatrical merit of them. One reason I did not respond was I was afraid you were going to start this line of thought.
Danny Doyle
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10587 Posts |
I agree, I thought this post had not merit and nothing to do with a real stage hypnosis performance. Like the others any good hypnotist should easily be able to do a full 90 minutes show with them usually wanting more. In a sidesplitting, hilarious show there is no drag after 60 minutes, actually at the 60 minute point is where most decent shows really start to kick into high gear.
Perhaps your understanding and perception of a stage hypnosis show needs some tending to. The plant idea you mention would easily kill not to mention discredit and real hypnosis show. This is unless of course you aren't doing a true hypnosis show and are simply seeking gimmicks to pass off as hypnosis. This all along seemed like a flaming or baiting post to me, having nothing to do with performance hypnosis which is why no one responded initially. My suggestion (since you asked), give it up, it has nothing to do with hypnosis and is an insult to the art and science. Put your efforts into more productive places, like training. |
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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
I have done shows that have gone on for nearly three hours and the audience sat in their chairs at the end because they didn't want to leave. Here is a clue : its got nothing to do with the charisma of the hypnotist.
Unfortunately training in itself won't make you a good hypnotist you need to have some talent for getting the best out of the volunteers that's where the real art lies and I don't think that can be taught. Well not to 100%. The fact that you believe that a drooping plant would save a drooping show tells me you don't really understand how to entertain with hypnosis. You honestly think killing a plant with a chemical would be entertaining? You should be gardener not a hypnotist! ;-) |
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts |
I am with MP - I have managed a three hour show once when the student union told me to keep it going, they were lapping it up. Down to a great audience and great volunteers. I won't pretend it was my charisma!
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts |
I am with MP - I have managed a three hour show once when the student union told me to keep it going, they were lapping it up. Down to a great audience and great volunteers. I won't pretend it was my charisma!
Check out Tony's new thriller Dead or Alive http://www.amazon.co.uk/Alive-Varrick-Bo......n+carson
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10587 Posts |
What MP said I couldn't agree more. A good hypnosis show has little to do with hypnosis and almost all to do with the entertainer and the entertainment value created by the hypnotist - his/her personality with the subjects, with the audience (because you are doing two shows at once), and their ability to create good, interactive comedy bits and control the entertainment and entertainment value. This is missed by many hypnosis performers. The vast majority of hypnotists are not entertainers they are simply applicators (sounds like a tampoon!)of hypnosis.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Glad it wasn't just me.
Danny Doyle
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Jesse Lewis Loyal user 227 Posts |
Hi Mozart,
Everyone is saying this is a bad idea which I kind of agree with on first glance however I want explore this further. My question for you is what is your end goal with this are you going to use it every show? for publicity? for your promo? are you planning on using it repeatedly? is this something you want to become known for? Where do you see this in 2-10 years? Jesse
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Killing off the Amazon as a publicly stunt.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Mozart New user Rochester, MN 80 Posts |
There was no intent to flame or bait anyone and certainly no intent to minimize the art and science of stage hypnosis. Sorry to have wasted your time with an innocent question and I'll make certain not to do it again.
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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
Mozart
I wouldn't worry about the tone of the replies on here. Feel free to ask any question. I didn't initially answer because I really didn't have an answer it was so far away from doing shows. But now at least you got the answer that will stop you wasting your time. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
We ignored the question and you baited us by name. Don't act all innocent babe in the woods.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Mozart New user Rochester, MN 80 Posts |
Yes I did - but only after 146 views failed to elicit an answer. When one is looking for arcane information, it often helps to seek out experts.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
The upsetting partv was you coming of as some expert in theater.
What is your background? How many shows a week do you do? How many have you done?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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