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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts 
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Several times I have been met with a very strange opinion
when it comes to memorizing a phone number: People who don't think it get's easier. Example: I tell someone that instead of trying to memorizing the phone number as 073 501 45 01 like phone numbers are commonly written in Sweden, they could use the natural pattern that they see, and memorize it as 07 3501 4501. Then some people say it's not easier that way, but that the regular way is easier since "that's what I'm used to!" Is it a matter of them being so stucked in their habits that they can not change? Or do they simply don't understand? None of them have been able to demonstrate to me that they ACTUALLY remember better that way, they just seem to believe they do. What to do about this? If people don't understand a simple technique like this, how on earth will they understand ANYTHING about mnemonics? |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts
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On Apr 25, 2014, Marlin1894 wrote: Hahahaha!!!! That is EXACTLY what came to mind when I read the OP!!!
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts
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Ok, so people are so stucked in their habits that they
don't understand easier solutions. What to do about it? |
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts
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In the case of something like remembering a phone number where that "rhythm" is so ingrained in peoples memory, I'm not sure it is "easier" to try and change after a certain point.
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts
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It's kind of like the "new" math being taught in schools. I was able to comprehend how this works and how it can be easier for some people. But, I know a LOT of people who cannot wrap their minds around the concept. It is outside their habitual ways.
 Phone numbers (at least here in the States) are generally spoken with a cadence. The same is true for social security numbers. Ask an English speaking person (1st language) to recite the alphabet and I will bet most of them will apply a cadence to certain letters that parallels the alphabet song (A B C D E F G) (H I J K) (LMNOP) (Q R S) (T U V) (W X) (Y and Z).
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts
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Well I guess I'm different. An entry code I'm using
several times a week is 8816. I'm telling people "8+8=16" to remember it easier. They even seem to have a hard time with this... |
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts
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I'm not knocking mnemonic devices. In fact I have remembered serial numbers, account numbers etc, using the telephone number cadence since it comes so naturally. Makes memorizing a ten digit number fairly easy for me.
Although nowadays with storing numbers in the phone I sometimes have a hard time remembering phone numbers now, and there are some I call regularly that I don't know by heart. I just pull it up and hit dial. |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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I efficiency in trivial matters worth troubling over? There are probably better ways to tie your shoelaces than the way I do, but so what? More efficient ways to extract oil, or repair heart valves, now we're talking.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts
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On Apr 25, 2014, Mikael Eriksson wrote: The problem with this is that the formula is kind of useless in an "across the board" sense. While it might be a nice memory jog for that particular number, it hardly would work if the target number were 8815, or 8817. A separate set of rules would have to be devised, applied, and memorized for every thing you'd want to remember. That seems to be fairly inefficient, to me.
~michael baker
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts
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On Apr 25, 2014, Marlin1894 wrote: +1 But the hardest number for me to remember is my own cell number since I never call it.
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts
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On Apr 25, 2014, landmark wrote: Ha!I know it, me too. |
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Chessmann Inner circle 4247 Posts
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It can definitely be easier to memorize a phone number using a different grouping or cadence, but it depends on the number. Sometimes, the familiar way could work better.
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts
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I used Harry Lorayne's system from "The Memory Book" to save a backup of my contacts list in my brain in case something happens to my phone.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts
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On Apr 25, 2014, critter wrote: If you sell the phone, do you have to destroy the backup? 
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts
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Critter: I wonder if any of those above ever heard of my THE MEMORY BOOK, HOW TO DEVELOP A SUPER-POWER MEMORY, MEMORY MAKES MONEY, PAGE-A-MINUTE MEMORY BOOK, AGELESS MEMORY, etc., etc.
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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I wondered the same thing, Harry. I was still a kid when I got your How to Develop a Super-Power Memory and the lessons I learned there were foundational to my career in mentalism. The book is on my list of the most important thirty-nine mentalism books ever written. (Even though it wasn't written for mentalists in particular.)
I many be a bit late, Harry, but thanks for writing it. (And everything else you've put out over the years!) Good thoughts, Bob |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8GtuPdrUQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqQ6Z-Hm......GtuPdrUQ
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts
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[quote]On Apr 25, 2014, Michael Baker wrote:
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The problem with this is that the formula is kind of useless in an "across the board" sense. While it might be a nice memory jog for that particular number, it hardly would work if the target number were 8815, or 8817. A separate set of rules would have to be devised, applied, and memorized for every thing you'd want to remember. That seems to be fairly inefficient, to me. Yes, you are right. I used it primarily as an example of how to make it easier to remember, by using your fantasy. However, there always seems to be people that think that it's harder than just memorizing it the regular way. |
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts
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On Apr 27, 2014, Harry Lorayne wrote: Yes I've read several of your books, Harry, they are very good. |
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