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Vincent V. Loyal user 204 Posts |
As mind reading?
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Chaz93 Inner circle Texas 1754 Posts |
Why would you? Palm reading is it's own art. A palm reader is not reading the persons mind, but rather he is reading the persons palm, as is hinted at by the name.
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts |
For close-up gigs I occasionally let someone pick a card then read their palm, and tell them which card they would be drawn to based on their character. Not my idea - got it from Paul Voodini. But in general the palm reading on its own is enough.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
I present mind reading as mind reading and palm reading as palm reading.
Just had an interesting thought- how would one present card productions as ventriloquism? Maybe you could have each card shout, "Here I am!" as it is produced from the air. |
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
You could make your hand into a talking mouth kinda puppet, and have it sick up the cards...
i know you weren't being serious...i just liked the weird visual...
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
Not strictly what you asked for, but Palmystic by t.a.waters...
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Chaz93 Inner circle Texas 1754 Posts |
What have you tried Vincent? What are your thoughts on this?
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12938 Posts |
Reading minds reads the mind.
reading palms reads the palm. why mix the two and confuse yourself. |
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5925 Posts |
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On Apr 28, 2014, mastermindreader wrote: An afternoon with the film MAGIC and you'll have your answer! Oh wait... And rum! Lots of rum!! |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Loved that film. Have seen it dozens of times. But there the dummy, Fats, just heckles the card magic. I'm imagining have the cards themselves do the talking.
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5925 Posts |
I'm imagining the cards heckle Fats!
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
There ya go!
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seadog93 Inner circle 3200 Posts |
I'm curious what your experience with palm readings are that led to the question.
Have you had a palm reading and/or seen one being given? Palm readings don't need to be presented "as" something because they are incredibly fun and interesting in and of themselves; by looking at a strangers hand you are able to tell them things about themselves that their close friends may not know or understand and you can even describe and explain the past and future as well. ...is that not enough for you!? Of course there are different arguments, belief structures and arguments as to why palm reading words (i.e. is it generalization, wishful thinking, ...real), but that doesn't change anything at all about the experience. Some people do use mentalism principles and incorporate them into the palm reading, but those are still palm readings presented as palm reading. Others, like Voodini and Tony, will sometimes incorporate a reveal into a palm reading even, but that is still a palm reading presented as a palm reading. I've done reveals as well, but many of the people, by the time I get to the end of the reading, just take it for granted that I can do something like that (I reveal a question, made less dramatic than a card).
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Richtofen New user 27 Posts |
I agree with Seadog, if you ask yourself the question, it's not for you!
You need to be genuine, it's not a magic trick! |
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
I would say though, the best why to discover why or why not for anything, is to go out there and try it...learn from your own experiences...
do a pure palm reader do a pure palm read with a reveal try our t.a. waters palmystic learn by "doing"... as long as you are prepared for something to fall absolutely flat and dead... you might generate something unexpected out of it all...but most importantly, you'll have experienced it, and (hopefully) you'll learn from it too... but! keeping in mind your other recent thread of things not going over well, apart from your two masterpieces, please consider rehearsing and practicing it all a lot more than a week, before unleashing it on someone...
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Vincent V. Loyal user 204 Posts |
You have been VERY helpful IAIN.
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Moderncelt Veteran user Twin Cities MN 343 Posts |
Ok, take this with a grain of salt. I read palms. It's what I primarily do. When I do my cabaret/stage bit I "use" palmistry to help choose a volunteer for mindreading. I will ask several people in the front row to raise both hands palm out and select one person and explain that I chose them based on the lines in their hands. For instance, they may have a very arching heart line with a ring of Solomon that tells me that not only are they very emotionally expressive but intuitive in their own right which makes them perfect to help with what I'm doing next. etc etc ect.
I'm not directly using palmistry to read minds, but rather using it as an explanation as to why the mindreading would work best with THAT person. |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
That makes perfect sense. Similar to asking for a Pisces or Scorpio to assist in a particular experiment because of the intuitive nature of their signs.
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Logan Five Inner circle Northern California 1434 Posts |
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On Apr 28, 2014, TonyB2009 wrote: Voodini's Hand of Desinty is a great routine..It's in his Reader Of Minds ebook.
Self concept is destiny..
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