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The only thing that captures me is the use of my mobile device to receive transmissions , so I don't have to carry other things with me . Personally I don't like to carry a lot of things for a single effect .
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I bought this last year and soon sold it. Promystic's version is much better.


Care to briefly summarize why? I'm on the verge of purchasing this. Thanks in advanced!


Inconsistent and unreliable connections. Maybe it's been improved, I've no idea but I do know that there is already a product on the market that does this job flawlessly.


While I agree the PM is far better, I can't see what made you buy an inferior version of essentially the same effect ?


Jack (or anyone for that matter), could you please explain exactly why this is an inferior product (and I'm assuming you are referring to an MDmini). Thanks.
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Everyone should be equal , no inferiority , just like communism Smile
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Lol JKJK , but still , would love to hear an explanation Smile
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I have just posted a review in inner thoughts
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http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......560520#0
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The link is working fine. And it's a nice review. Thanks.
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I just read ur review ( btw thanks a lot ) . So for anyone that bought this effect , what would you do with it ? I mean if you just use it as a guessing color thing it would not be well worth the money Smile
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I just read ur review ( btw thanks a lot ) . So for anyone that bought this effect , what would you do with it ? I mean if you just use it as a guessing color thing it would not be well worth the money Smile

There are clips online if you search, but if you give it some thought there are many ways to use this especially with the other stickers that you can get.
You could use it as a dice with several people to get a random number which is used as part of a bigger routine. Trades shows you could use the plain one with various products.
Also with this product as well as showing the chosen colour it also shows the previous four colours so if someone changes their mind you have two reveals and this happens quite a lot. Another point I forgot to mention is that the number allocated to the colours shows up on the icon on your phone so the phone can be on the table in plain sight and you can still get the info from the red notification circle. Hope this makes sense.
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I just read ur review ( btw thanks a lot ) . So for anyone that bought this effect , what would you do with it ? I mean if you just use it as a guessing color thing it would not be well worth the money Smile


Interestingly enough if you look at the reviews of the ProMystic mini rubic cube, which is the same pretty much the same thing, those who have the device and are using it simply rave about it. And it is about $120 more expensive if you don't already have the r***ever. No complaints there about it not being worth the money. And remember, neither company guarantees creativity will occur simply by owning one of their devices, but I'm betting it might be a by-product.
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I just read ur review ( btw thanks a lot ) . So for anyone that bought this effect , what would you do with it ? I mean if you just use it as a guessing color thing it would not be well worth the money Smile


Interestingly enough if you look at the reviews of the ProMystic mini rubic cube, which is the same pretty much the same thing, those who have the device and are using it simply rave about it. And it is about $120 more expensive if you don't already have the r***ever. No complaints there about it not being worth the money. And remember, neither company guarantees creativity will occur simply by owning one of their devices, but I'm betting it might be a by-product.


Agree ... 120 more to get a receiver ... I think Promistic's quality makes it worth it then .

I guess I will only realize how it's worth when I handle it and start to perform it . However I will first find out the consistency of Icube and Promistic Mini MD by borrowing one from my friend , see which one is better , more accurate , and hit the buy button .

Thanks Smile .
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Promystic version is far better IMO . It doesn't rely on Bluetooth which in its self makes it far more reliable . I myself have the Promystic version and it has never failed me , but my fellow magicians at gigs who own I cube have had to ditch it mid routine on more than one occasion as it interferes with other strong blue tooth signals and effects there readings . Don't get me wrong I cube has pluses ie records last few results , can be read off phone on plain site but if you want something that is bang on everytime then Promystic is the Daddy .
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Promystic version is far better IMO . It doesn't rely on Bluetooth which in its self makes it far more reliable . I myself have the Promystic version and it has never failed me , but my fellow magicians at gigs who own I cube have had to ditch it mid routine on more than one occasion as it interferes with other strong blue tooth signals and effects there readings . Don't get me wrong I cube has pluses ie records last few results , can be read off phone on plain site but if you want something that is bang on everytime then Promystic is the Daddy .


Could not have put it better , Promystic is custom made electronics, along with top shelf customer service also remember you are buying a modular system that keeps getting better all the time , Bluetooth is no way as reliable , as with most things you get what you pay for , if you want a one tick pony then this might be ok , but for long term PM outshines every time !
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I have used a mind buster which uses Bluetooth for years and never had any issues at all, I have used it in rooms with over 200 people prob all with mobiles with no problems at all. A few simple checks which is worth doing with any electrical equipment is all it takes to make sure all is well. I think Bluetooth is more reliable than some people make out Smile
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I'm not sure the "one trick pony" argument is any more applicable to iCube than it is to any of the individual ProMystic items. Yes, you only need one receiver, but in the case of the MDmini, e.g., the cost of this particular item is just about the same as the iCube and you can't do anything with it but what it was designed for, i.e,, one trick. If you buy the other items you can use the receiver, but you still have to buy each purpose built trick. There is no real advantage cost wise because each new trick costs hundreds of dollars.

Bluetooth does have limited range (and so does the MDmini) but I have several tricks that use BT and as long as I check my connection before performing I have never had an in performance issue.
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The statement of mini md being a one trick pony is not true at all. If you think outside the "box" there are many things you can use this for other than it's designed purpose. The nice thing about mini is it's size and reliability. This is one of those personal choice type things but for me it's the mini hands down.
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On Jul 26, 2014, Magician560 wrote:
I just read ur review ( btw thanks a lot ) . So for anyone that bought this effect , what would you do with it ? I mean if you just use it as a guessing color thing it would not be well worth the money Smile


I have and love the ProMystic MD Mini. If you want a "stage size" effect, you could mount it inside a photo cube, for example.

If you want to have a cueing device ... well, a small amount of thought will tell you how to use the MD Mini.

If you want to do a routine such as Artificial Intelligence, Richard Osterlind's version of Peter Warlock's routine, which normally requires a force, use the MD Mini instead. (I also leave this to your imagination, since this is an open forum.)

Hope this helps!
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The statement of mini md being a one trick pony is not true at all. If you think outside the "box" there are many things you can use this for other than it's designed purpose. The nice thing about mini is it's size and reliability. This is one of those personal choice type things but for me it's the mini hands down.


I agree, but it no less a one trick pony than is iCube, i.e., I believe you can do the same things with both. No?
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Yes, you are correct. But with it being smaller, it's a bit more usefull when using for something other than a reveal of color. I also like having a small recei*er as opposed to using the device that icube uses. The recei*r can go in more places plus it's takes less space which is huge for me.
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The statement of mini md being a one trick pony is not true at all. If you think outside the "box" there are many things you can use this for other than it's designed purpose. The nice thing about mini is it's size and reliability. This is one of those personal choice type things but for me it's the mini hands down.


Agreed.

Why all the talk now about the Hugo product? It's been out for some time?

Bluetooth is fine but nowhere near as rock solid reliable as a dedicated re****r. That is also why Labco's products are vastly superior to others. Pro's want reliability - they can't take chances even if the cost is slightly higher.
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I agree with Rowland on Mindbuster as I have it but Labco is top notch reliability too . Also you get a signal on Mindbuster so you are 100% sure of a connection , it's just I have seen I cube fail on more than one occasion but Labco like Promystic do seem to be on another level with this type of kit IMO
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