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TravisNye
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I finished building my own Floating Table. I think it came out extremely well considering I did not have to spend $800 on it Smile I am having some issues getting the gimmick length and curve just right to keep the leverage down and keep the table still feeling light. It took me 3 days to build with approx. 8 hrs total into it
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Attempt #2 uploading pic

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Very nice!
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What kind of material (type of wood) did you use?
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Wait! There is a gimmick on these!!!!!!!!!
Just kidding.

That looks freaking awesome dude! Great job!!!
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You should write an e-book on how you did it. I am curious as I know others would be as well. We all know how they work, it's the building that is the hard part. For me at least...
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Nice job, must be very satisfied with the result, and you saved money.
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Looks as good as the Losander table I spent a Butt-load on. Very nice indeed.
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Nice piece of work. Did the choice of wood present any problems?
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I hate to be the "one" here... but the legs look kind of skimpy and thin for the size of the top... and the upright looks like a flat piece of 1 x 3. If that's not the case, I apologise for the mis-interpretation, but from the picture that's what it looks like.


I don't see that it looks as good as a Losander table at all.


My thought has always been that if you're going to build something that's commercially available instead of buying one, there should be improvements made, either in materials, or style. I don't see that you've improved on anything here but the cost.
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Apart from being morally and ethically wrong to build a copy of Losanders table it also doesn't look right !!!
The best thing to do is to destroy it and save your money to buy a Original version.
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What Michael (makeupguy) and tristanmagic said!

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It does look quite nice.
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On May 27, 2014, tristanmagic wrote:
Apart from being morally and ethically wrong to build a copy of Losanders table it also doesn't look right !!!
The best thing to do is to destroy it and save your money to buy a Original version.


Can we please keep the Workshop area free of ethical & Legal discussions? There are places for that. I come here to see what people are building, get advice and to perhaps offer my own insights. If I want to engage in ethical discussions I will go over to Right or Wrong.

Travisnye, your work looks great but I agree that perhaps you should pay a bit more attention to the classic design and proportion of a table. It may be your picture that makes it look a little off, but if not, you may want to modify your design so the table looks a bit more stable.
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On May 27, 2014, tristanmagic wrote:
Apart from being morally and ethically wrong to build a copy of Losanders table it also doesn't look right !!!
The best thing to do is to destroy it and save your money to buy a Original version.


Can we please keep the Workshop area free of ethical & Legal discussions? There are places for that. I come here to see what people are building, get advice and to perhaps offer my own insights. If I want to engage in ethical discussions I will go over to Right or Wrong.

Travisnye, your work looks great but I agree that perhaps you should pay a bit more attention to the classic design and proportion of a table. It may be your picture that makes it look a little off, but if not, you may want to modify your design so the table looks a bit more stable.


Travisnye. There is not a single magic building business today that did not start building props until after being inspired by an effect they saw or read about. Flying items have been around for centuries. You just keep on with your R&D and building your own props. Make YOUR props the way you want them to look and perform. Keep refining it.

Good luck
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I am with you Pete, Keep building and refining. There is nothing wrong with building something for yourself to use...I see way too much criticism in this section.


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If the person who is going to make a knock off or rebuild their own version for themselves is only right to do so if they bought the original from the creator which usually includes performance rights. Or they must contact the creator and request to purchase performance rights separately.
However just to copy a prop that is not public domain and not pay the creator for his performance rights or the right to use his IP is stealing.
And obviously manufacturing your own knock off for sale is also wrong.

If this table uses Losander's method, and you have not bought the original or have not paid Losander for performance rights, then this is theft, and should be destroyed and not used. However if you are using your own unique method or already own a genuine Losander table, then you have every right to build and make alterations to a prop for your OWN use.

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I was waiting for Peter Loughran to weigh in on this. Now that he has, can some mods close down this thread? There's really nothing more to say now that Peter Loughran has weighed in.

(I'm pretty sure I'm being sarcastic.)

The legs look a little specious. I figures the way to build a floating table was to use foam core and cover it with veneer. Balsa veneer? Is balsa lighter than foam core? This is one instance where I might agree with the naysayers. If the method is the same as Losanders then I don't think I would feel confident enough to copy it because I wouldn't be sure I got the beat method. I would however improve on the design if I owned the method.

(Some of those tables look weird. The one on the Darren Brown used looked alright although perhaps he added some varnish coloring or aging.
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Keep on working on your props. Everyone has knocked off effects. EVERYONE! From Houdini, Blackstone, Thurston, Heller, Keller, Anderson, Robert-Houdin and on and on thru the lustrums. If you have a "name" the wagons are circled. If you don't, you are a blackheart.

Keep on with your R&D, (or number of posts), and some day you can be a "legend" and people will circle the wagons for you, castigating the upstarts who experiment with your props. Or not.

What a world, what a world.

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