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RJH
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It seems that there is a new billiard ball gimmick named X-ball. Here is a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gKEZkS-_eE
I hope that Bojan can give us more intel.

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Looks great! Can't locate the product on their website. Any links?
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Beautiful! Thought I caught an edit or two...maybe not. I'll be watching for this!

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Perhaps something akin to a Durania ball? My main concern is that the balls are clearly different sized and very small, and also the colors don't match, and I'm not sure you could match them too well with a non gaff set. If you could match the colors, and the gimmick was available in a bigger size so that the change in size(between the the main gimmick and it's load ball) isn't so noticeable this could be very cool.

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As I see it, that promo is very misleading. Most of that material is taught on Bond Lee's DVD on his Billiard Ball routine called Born. What they are actually selling is not made to stand out in any way in that Promo.

If you purchased his DVD called, "Born", you would see Bond Lee does use different balls from various manufacturers, but that has nothing to do with what this topic is about, which is a Ball being referred to as X- Ball. What that is and what is does is not pointed out in the demo.

Please refer to this topic of discussion for a comparison and video link.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=10

leomagnus, Bond Lee only uses a shell on his DVD, no Durania Ball or gimmicks, it is all his masterful skill in the Bond DVD. If "X-Ball" is in that video, it is very hard to detect what it is and what is does that would be so different. Unless, they are saying that moves like Bond Lee's can be done with a gimmicked ball of some kind.

A search brought up this website and X-Ball:
http://www.808magic.com.tw/product_info.php?id=689

1800 Chinese yuan = $290.483 U.S. Currency

Just a tad expensive.
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And here is the X-Holder! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrWSTqo-Dw

Bill saying that most of the stuff shown on the trailer is taught in Born, is wrong if you ask me. There are similar moves, routines and tricks, but the ones shown in the trailer are more clean!

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RJH That link showed some very nice sleeving work. I suspect the touch at the elbows was relesing the ball being held to drop into the hands. Or he was just holding out the balls in his sleeve. The man is masterful and a joy to watch.
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RJH, I doubt an audience will see the difference, go for it if you have the desire and resources. I would think you have to buy 2, one read and one white. That is $580.966, plus postage.

Another device, it looks like it has no connection to X-B, but it may be able to be used with it, who knows. Just this manufacturer is naming everything X something-an-other.

So a device you have to have a coat special made or a current one totally altered. I don't think spending over a thousand dollars is worth a billiard ball routine. Produce doves, it brings on the applause more then a ball color change or appearance.

Harry, watch the whole video, it exposes the gimmicks. What a contraption indeed.

Here is the holder, same price as ball:
http://www.808magic.com.tw/product_info.php?id=690

So now it would be more like over a $1000 for the balls and gimmicks, plus having a Taylor made coat. WOW!

And no place to perform it.
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Thanks for the link. It is exactly what I thought it would be. A mechanical hold-out. Nice design and working I think. I totally agree with you, Over $1000 in props and set-up (tailoring) and no place to play.
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I see a durania here .was explaned by richard ross.
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Very interesting
I perform a watch routine that uses a 2 stage holdout (clamp and cord) but the release is facilitated by pushing my arm against my side.

One thing about all the moves on the video- Some might have the impression that you can make an entire routine from several moves but in reality, you can only do 1 or 2 bits before you have to reset.. That said, it would make a great start or finish to other sleights in your repertoire.
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Is it not the moment to bring this Topic DOWNSTAIRS ???
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Elias you are right,it is Durania by Werner Geissler - Werry
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On Jun 18, 2014, bojanbarisic wrote:
Elias you are right,it is Durania by Werner Geissler - Werry


It had all the earmarks of this in the performance. Are there perhaps two in play at one time? The 1 to 4 seems to suggest that.

The video may be somewhat misleading if intended as a demo of the product, because some of the vanishes and productions are clearly done by different method, as noted above by others.

Still, it was very magical to watch.

BTW - I have a Durania ball that has a breach in the wall by one of the pivot holes. Of course the pin won't stay put. Any thoughts on who might be able to repair it? I doubt it would be practical to "fix" the broken hole, but maybe rotate the gizmo a few degrees, with new holes drilled and a new slot for the stop pin??
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Michael, send me a good photo.
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I will once I figure out where I put it. LOL! I've been reorganizing my collection lately, so it's anyone's guess at the moment! Smile
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Jay, I just sent you 4 photos. Thanks for taking a look.
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Bill,

The price is in Taiwanese dollar.
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On Jun 18, 2014, AbsoluteZero wrote:
Bill,

The price is in Taiwanese dollar.


It is listed as 1800 yuan, not as TWD.

That would make a big difference to 1,800 TWD = $59.8653 or $59.87 x 4 = $239.48 for 2 balls and 2 droppers. Plus postage.

To bad they do not have an English website to confirm, they might get some business from outside of Taiwan. There was an 808 website in English, but I cannot find it now. Just found it, it was King Magic and they are in China, and do not have the X- ball or box. Different place. Oh Well.
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Bill,

I am pretty sure about the pricing. Feel free to double check it.
Single ball = 1800NT, one pair = 3000NT
The unit "yuan" doesn't limit to China only.
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