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We're not all the same are we...

do you prefer a higher energy and performance? or a slower build up? I know each is dictated to by the character and ability being shared...but in general terms...

what turns you off a performance? what you do you feel keeps people interested?

how do you deal with different age groups if its close up, and how do you pick up on the different energy levels/'vibes' in a larger audience? do you consciously change it?

what makes you feel satisfied by watching a performance, and what makes you feel satisfied by being the performer?

what makes you watchable, over someone else? no one word replies "personality"... explain yourself!
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Hi Iain, not sure if this is answering your questions or not but I have different close up routines depending on the type of people I am dealing with.if they are skeptical I have a very different set of effects than if they are more open and willing to go through longer processes.

I like watching most mentalists perform I guess from an academic reason if nothing else. However, I think I like Osterlinds style the most, he almost shares in the wonder if an effect and makes a connection with the spectator, he kind of voices what the spectator is thinking. That's what I get from his performances. What I don't like is when something 'sounds' scripted or wooden. Or when an effect is cheapened with a derogatory remark. I was watching Keith Barry the other day and while I like him I do find sometimes he pushes things a little far with regards to sexual innuendo. That's fine when among friends but with strangers it can come across creepy or desperate. A tiny bit lighter or not such obvious innuendo would be better.

Also, performers that are self deprecating always seem to have an extra edge

Just some thoughts,

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I like to feel that I am sharing an experience with the audience rather than claiming to have some sort of power or gift. I also like to inject a little humour into my performances, just a little. I like watching any mentalist good, bad or indifferent as I feel you can always learn something from them.
I think that at the moment we have so many great performers to learn from. Some of my favourites are Derren Brown, Bob Cassidy, Richard Osterlind, Peter Turner and Colin McCloud to name just a few, and I could watch Harry Lorayne doing his memory act time and time again.
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Sleeve tattoos put me off.
And make-up on men.
And cultivated sloppiness.
And bad articulation.

I like what Derren Brown does: English phlegm (Gesundheit), wit and craftsmanship (and showmanship).
And of course Mr Cassidy: dryer than the Gobi desert and deliciously grumpy at times. But what an emotional hook! (and I do hope it's a hook and that he's not just happy to see me).

On a personal level I try to bond: larger audiences (my maximum is around 25 to 30) need a 'larger intimacy' Smile
I do prefer small groups (up to 10-12): you can play and build up the tension like a thermostat.
And what makes me watchable: well, I'm a gal in a men's world. All I have to do is blow a suggestion in a man's ear and I've got an instant stooge setup! Smile

xxx Morgaine
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I'm more of a bizarrist than a pure mentalist, so I take the storyteller approach. All my shows have a "big idea" that I'm trying to convey through my magic, and every effect is carefully chosen to support my premise. I begin my show by introducing the concept(s) I plan on exploring for the next 20 or so minutes, then ask the profound question that shapes the rest of the show. Each routine is an attempt to answer that question, but by the time we get to the epilogue, the audience is left to answer the question for themselves.
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I do Radio magic or effects over the phone or internet.I do what I claim to do (A Callahan line) 100% and that is the big mystery. My live shows are similar to a Baptist Minister inspiring you to BELIEVE ... In fact I shout .. YOU MUST BELIEVE ..more than once during my presentation. I keep it funny but the final effect is a jaw dropper. I have no need for applause ..they usually say "Holy $%it".... and then it over ..They are left to ponder it all.
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On Jun 19, 2014, morgaine_le_fey wrote:
Sleeve tattoos put me off.
And make-up on men.
And cultivated sloppiness.
And bad articulation.

I like what Derren Brown does: English phlegm (Gesundheit), wit and craftsmanship (and showmanship).
And of course Mr Cassidy: dryer than the Gobi desert and deliciously grumpy at times. But what an emotional hook! (and I do hope it's a hook and that he's not just happy to see me).

On a personal level I try to bond: larger audiences (my maximum is around 25 to 30) need a 'larger intimacy' Smile
I do prefer small groups (up to 10-12): you can play and build up the tension like a thermostat.
And what makes me watchable: well, I'm a gal in a men's world. All I have to do is blow a suggestion in a man's ear and I've got an instant stooge setup! Smile

xxx Morgaine


Morgaine is now my fave female Mentalist contributor to the Café.

Am I being premature at this early stage?

Well, it's a guy thing lol. Smile

Honestly though, it is so friggin refreshing to hear a female's perspective here at the Café that is fresh, intelligent, witty and gets straight to the point. Keep up the great posts and the XXX's Miss Le_Fay!
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Morgaine is now my fave female Mentalist contributor to the Café.

Am I being premature at this early stage?

Well, it's a guy thing lol. Smile

Honestly though, it is so friggin refreshing to hear a female's perspective here at the Café that is fresh, intelligent, witty and gets straight to the point. Keep up the great posts and the XXX's Miss Le_Fay!


Brett,

You're a push-over...

And, yes, she is very charming!

Iain, I'm going out for coffee. Will mull this over.

Hope all of you are well...

Scott
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Morgaine (Snow White)-

Okay, we've got Sneezy and Grumpy covered, now we need to find the other five. Smile
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I'm a gal in a men's world.
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xxx Morgaine


It's interesting that the vast majority of mentalists are male, whereas "psychics" are predominantly female.

Mike
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On Jun 19, 2014, IAIN wrote:
We're not all the same are we...

do you prefer a higher energy and performance? or a slower build up? I know each is dictated to by the character and ability being shared...but in general terms...

what turns you off a performance? what you do you feel keeps people interested?

how do you deal with different age groups if its close up, and how do you pick up on the different energy levels/'vibes' in a larger audience? do you consciously change it?

what makes you feel satisfied by watching a performance, and what makes you feel satisfied by being the performer?

what makes you watchable, over someone else? no one word replies "personality"... explain yourself!


Let's see...

Higher energy or slow build up? Answer: Both - an engaging performance, whether close-up or on stage requires taking the audience along for a ride. There should be ups and downs built into your presentations. For example: Switching from being 'forceful' (taking control) to 'story telling' (drawing them in).

Turn offs: Mentalists that come across like realtors or insurance agents. Keeps people interested: Literally, drawing the audience in!

Personal experience: Had a gig about two months ago. Walked in and sh*t, they're old people, average about sixty something (my age group). I think, 'I hate old people'. People this age are world-worn, calcified and skeptical. I really wanted to be anywhere but THERE.

But then, I thought, I'm a performer and I'm being paid to entertain and that's just what I'm going to do. And, I did. You know what's underneath that crusty exterior? Children that just want to be awed. And that, as Alice said, was that.

'what makes you feel satisfied by watching a performance, and what makes you feel satisfied by being the performer?': Watching the audience's jaws drop and hearing them gasp...

'what makes you watchable': I'm charming...

'no one word replies'- Was that enough? Or, too much?

Best to all,

Scott
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On Jun 19, 2014, morgaine_le_fey wrote:
Sleeve tattoos put me off.
And make-up on men.
And cultivated sloppiness.
And bad articulation.

I like what Derren Brown does: English phlegm (Gesundheit), wit and craftsmanship (and showmanship).
And of course Mr Cassidy: dryer than the Gobi desert and deliciously grumpy at times. But what an emotional hook! (and I do hope it's a hook and that he's not just happy to see me).

On a personal level I try to bond: larger audiences (my maximum is around 25 to 30) need a 'larger intimacy' Smile
I do prefer small groups (up to 10-12): you can play and build up the tension like a thermostat.
And what makes me watchable: well, I'm a gal in a men's world. All I have to do is blow a suggestion in a man's ear and I've got an instant stooge setup! Smile

xxx Morgaine


Morgaine is now my fave female Mentalist contributor to the Café.

Am I being premature at this early stage?

Well, it's a guy thing lol. Smile

Honestly though, it is so friggin refreshing to hear a female's perspective here at the Café that is fresh, intelligent, witty and gets straight to the point. Keep up the great posts and the XXX's Miss Le_Fay!



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Thanks for the replies so far...its nice to hear/read the differences...

i'm almost conversational in close-up, I am openly imagination-based in my readings, and I mix the more tradtional, old school psychic entertainer type of presentations, but its presented from it being "i am using my imagination to pretend that I am psychic...the imagination is far more powerful and interesting than any alledged psychic ability...let us do *this* and take it from there...we can go as far as you want..."

i really like eugene burger and robert neale's thoughts on sharing and presenting unusual plots...and I'm from an art background, so that goes into the pot too...

i change a bit, partly because I'm not a full timer, so I can afford to do so - but at the same time, it keeps things fresh and interesting for me, which I hope I pass on to the people I perform for...
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The hardest thing to do in mentalism is to utterly be yourself, comfortable and charming...funny and mystifying. The wecond hardest things is knowing when to do what.

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Very casual and unassuming, the opposite of mysterious.

You might be floored with impossibility of the effect right now, but Iove the idea of bringing people into fun of the moment so much that the unlikelihood of what just transpired lingers...

...it's the idea of Batman being hidden plain sight via Bruce Wayne. The ordinary cloaking deep mysteries and ccomplexities.
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The hardest thing to do in mentalism is to utterly be yourself, comfortable and charming...funny and mystifying. The wecond hardest things is knowing when to do what.

David


Dead on, David...

No ifs, ands or buts; if you can be yourself then you've got them. Game over!

Quick story: I went to pick up my daughter at work earlier today. A young man was set up outside the restaurant with a guitar, amp and speaker. Played the guitar and sang. The kid wasn't too bad.

Here is the interesting bit - He was nervous as hell. I couldn't help but wonder, what drives us to perform? No one put a gun to his head, he wasn't hired to do a gig and yet he was compelled to lug his equipment out into public, set up and risk shame/humiliation/failure in front of complete strangers.

Live performing is a unique art form with an unusual dynamic.

Anyway, just thinking out loud.

Best to all,


Scott
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My problem is that my normal self isn't charming, funny, comfortable or mystifying.

But I learned to fake it from Dr Crow.
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My problem is that my normal self isn't charming, funny, comfortable or mystifying.

But I learned to fake it from Dr Crow.


If that's true, then you did a d@mn fine job.

Best wishes,

Scott
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