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Jon Allen V.I.P. England 1771 Posts 
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Hi Ray,
Does that link mean that you think because it is for sale, it's open season on exposure? Which question did you answer?
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Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts
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On Jun 22, 2014, Jon Allen wrote: I'm not trying to answer a question really Jon. I'm just harping on like a broken record about the fact that , in my option, what Craig is doing is inconsequential in a situation where magic secrets are chucked at anyone with the pennies. |
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts
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On Jun 22, 2014, Merlin wrote: By saying that you undermine the reason why this thread exists. To out unfair exposure within our community. Are you tired of that? Worth reflecting on, eh?
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On Jun 22, 2014, Jamie Ferguson wrote: Another witch !!! 
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Jon Allen V.I.P. England 1771 Posts
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There are much larger scale exposures going on, agreed.
That does not make this right. Another question is how many inconsequentials make a consequential?! Without looking to get political, does the shooting of an individual not matter to the gun lobby because there are more large scale shootings?
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The Greek Loyal user 300 Posts
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So what some of you are saying is that, it is ok to buy Craig's complete catalogue of released material and teach it to a group of interested people for money? No difference to teaching someone else's illusions is it?
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Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts
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The outrage grows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT9xuXQjx......be_gdata - Video Tube for YouTube - Android |
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On Jun 22, 2014, Jon Allen wrote: Holy mother of God ! Craig has shot someone ? That puts a whole different complexion on things. Who did he shoot ? |
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts
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On Jun 22, 2014, Ray Chelt wrote: Stop stirring things up Ray. 
We know your position here (pro-exposure), no need to fan the flames. 
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Adam Paul Veteran user 332 Posts
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All those who are sticking up for Craig here have a very short memory.
I've still not forgotten about the Dobson fiasco and the Red ripoff, but obviously you have? Craig has a track record of wrongdoings in our community and those if you who want to turn a blind eye or just brush it under the carpet should be ashamed. Also don't forget that Craig has been more than a "bit mean" (to quote Ross Tayler), to many creators on the WPR if it wasn't so ironic, it would laughable. Remember the blasting he dished it to Jeff McBride and the trouble he tried to start, including suggesting we boycott his products? It was disgusting to treat someone like that, but I guess you fan boys think that was ok? |
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Adam Paul Veteran user 332 Posts
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10798 Posts
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On Jun 22, 2014, Jon Allen wrote: Hey Jon- I don't know if gun lobby or NRA are good analogies my friend. NRA here in the USA does not care about big or small shootings - they simply exist to make sure anyone and everyone can own a gun. Period. Killings and shootings are ignored and irrelevent to the gun lobby. that's just a fact. Lets stick with the main subject which is exposure. Even if Craig et al does have participants sign a non-disclosure, is it really wise to *** our secrets out in the name of making $$$? For people who probaby mostly never had a passing interest in magic?
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Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts
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I'm not a Craig fan boy and have not shied away from criticism in the past.
And I am not sure I back him in this. Although I fail to see much harm in it, but non hobbyists will have a more valid pov. But what I am doing is mocking you and your ilk. Arch stirrer and Craig baiter Jamie F has set you all off like little clockwork toys and the incandescent hysteria over this is ridiculous. Here's a thought, Google "team building with magic" and see just how prevalent this is. |
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10798 Posts
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The starred out word rhymes with "lore"
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funnymagic Regular user The funny farm 166 Posts
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On Jun 22, 2014, Ray Chelt wrote: Yes, but they are teaching people how to do the 21 card trick or the jumping rubber band, not how to fudge their way through a performance using apparatus that costs thousands and that is in the acts of professional illusionists worldwide. |
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Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts
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On Jun 22, 2014, funnymagic wrote: Do you see that Funnymagic is saying its okay to divulge some magic.
Burn him !!! Burn him !!! |
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Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts
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Hi Craig !!!
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Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts
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Hey scoops,
Whilst you and Craig are both lurking about the Café. Why don't you PM him to get his side of the story. It's what Lois would do. |
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Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts
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In fact, instead of hiding in the (very small) crowd, I would encourage everybody who is hurling abuse to contact Craig and express their views mano a mano.
Go on, don't be scared. |
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts
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On Jun 22, 2014, Ray Chelt wrote: Ray Chelt, troublemaker extraordinaire!
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