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nlokers
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I'm sure its been mentioned way too many times here about having your invisible deck setup in your memorized deck order, but I had a thought today that I haven't ever heard before, interested if this is something that someone else has come up with.

You do an effect in which you claim that you flipped a card over in the pack before the show, as you are getting the deck out you can say something like "I remember it vividly, I went through the cards and found the King of Clubs and it was sandwiched between the Jack of Spades and the Five of Clubs, so I pulled it out flipped it around and put it right back where I had found it"
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I don't get it?

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One of the basic rules in using a MD is to avoid at all cost that you give the impression that you know the order of the cards by heart.
So don't do things that can even remotely hint to that.
That's my opinion.
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He means to add details to his story in order to make it more believable. Whether it improves the performance remains to be seen.

To the OP, try both and see which your viewers like more. If it makes the piece more effective, keep it. In magic if you can try to test your performances, as a scientist might, you'll be well on your way. Just be rigorous and exacting. Always challenge your beliefs.
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On Jun 27, 2014, Waterloophai wrote:
One of the basic rules in using a MD is to avoid at all cost that you give the impression that you know the order of the cards by heart.
So don't do things that can even remotely hint to that.
That's my opinion.


This could be a weakness in Michael Close's ID routine. The moves of that effect put the reversed selection under the top card of the stack, and Close's recommended patter highlights that--"When you reversed your invisible card and put it back into the invisible deck, do recall putting it beside the Jack of Spades--because there it is!"

Maybe it's wise to avoid that. That said, Close's ungimmicked (but stacked) ID routine is a magician cooler….

Les
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On Jun 28, 2014, lcwright1964 wrote:
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On Jun 27, 2014, Waterloophai wrote:
One of the basic rules in using a MD is to avoid at all cost that you give the impression that you know the order of the cards by heart.
So don't do things that can even remotely hint to that.
That's my opinion.


This could be a weakness in Michael Close's ID routine. The moves of that effect put the reversed selection under the top card of the stack, and Close's recommended patter highlights that--"When you reversed your invisible card and put it back into the invisible deck, do recall putting it beside the Jack of Spades--because there it is!"

Maybe it's wise to avoid that. That said, Close's ungimmicked (but stacked) ID routine is a magician cooler….

Les


Not so. His routine only puts it by the jack half the time, but always in the middle. But more importantly, he only calls out the card adjacent to the reversed card so it doesn't really suggest a mem stack. If anything, it's more of a convincer that he really did reverse one card earlier since he claimed to remember where he put the reversed card. I normally carry my mem deck prepared for this effect because it kills. It's also fun for those rare times someone's seen the gimmicked version, hehe.

I do agree with you on one thing though, the routine does cool magicians. Smile
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