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TLDR: My review is unbiased. Aaron gave me a free book.

Sorry to butt in, this is just a perfect moment to explain how I try to operate:

To be clear, nobody got a free copy. Case in point: he probably doesn't know it, but "Hallucination" was the first person to buy a copy of PE (Alpha) back when it was a 430 page behemoth. I did not know him prior that, there were no reviews and, as I come from a different background, not a single performer anywhere knew who I was. I'm not sure, but I think he saw a clip from an old lecture and emailed me. After spending a year or so fixing up that version, I made sure that anyone that took a chance with the older copy would also get the polished book that I had originally set out to write.

Complete disclosure now: Of the final version, I gave only 2 copies out for no money, both from the first small run. One was for a huge stack of high-quality material, the other was a very special case. There were no review copies, no advertising or promotion, or anything but the work speaking for itself through the people who own it. Otherwise, in 2012 I sent copies of the older book to a panel of about 10 experts in various fields (including Bill, as he implied) for detailed comments and advice that would not be shared with anyone but me.

All of that said, nobody has to take a blind chance on my material. Anyone who is considering getting a copy can see an unlisted private page with full details and honest unpublished reviews, and I openly answer all questions (not the ones in my signature). It should always be honest and transparent, just not public.

tl;dr: When you spend a good fraction of your years on a particular project, you handle its fruits with a certain care and integrity - both on and off of the written page. I'm no exception. I hope everyone with any of my work will expect the same level of accountability that "Hallucination" was talking about.

-Aaron.


Ah, not to knock your product. I bought bridge and it's great. I was just being cheeky.
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Many of the compliments that I could offer Aaron and his incredible PE have already been given in previous reviews and posts. I would like to add that my interaction with Aaron, both in purchasing Bridge and then PE, has been extremely positive--he's a great guy and extremely quick to respond!

By submitting this post I know it will bring this thread back to the top of Mentally Speaking and for me that realization is bitter-sweet. On one hand, Aaron deserves more recognition for this contribution to the community but on the other, I secretly wish this thread would disappear into oblivion so less performers would be aware of the power this book provides you.

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Drew I share everything you said above and I'm eager to see PE2. Aaron told me that it may come to life if enough people show interest : I do... Smile
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+1 for PE2.
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In general (with just one reservation) I like the book and contents. But as I get older I find I learn differently. As a book lover it pains me to say that I wish purchasers could have access to videos of Aaron performing the routines. This material is too good to just leave unused because of uncertainty.

Just my opinion of course. Pleas note I'm seeking clarity; I have no desire to copy anyone else's presentation!
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Another +1 For PE2.
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I have to agree with Roylan and say that I would have greatly benefited from some videos of Aaron performing these effects. That said, Aaron has been very helpful in dealing with any problems I've had. Pygmalion Effects is a wonderful book.
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Aren't the videos for at least two of the effects up on Aaron's site?
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You are right Bill. You can see demonstrations of both Push and Psychic Surgery (as well as Bridge) here; http://pygmalioneffects.com/
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To be fair, you can see partial videos of 2 or 3 effects on the website. They are not complete and are not instructional (they aren't meant to be). I can understand fully why Aaron doesn't want to post public videos, but it's something that I would have liked. It's is quite a large investment in time and money and I want to do it justice.

However, I know that Aaron is committed to helping out purchasers whenever he can, and is certainly more approachable than some!
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Not long ago there were uncut public videos of everything but Ghost Touch. I didn't bother moving them all to the new web page. I do send links to people want a visual. As Roylan pointed out, though, they aren't video instructions. You see what the spectators see, so there's no discussion and the process is still invisible.

Part of the decision to not make video instruction was that the demonstrations are just that - demonstrations. What they demonstrate is something bigger that people will apply in their own way. Also important was that video would have been too easy to share. Both have to do with the thought that if the effects outshine and out-travel the rest, we would leave behind some key nuggets and just end up with another magic book.

That was the calculation at the time, anyway. I'll use the feedback I got and continue to get to improve the next project.
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Hello Aaron
I would be pleased to receive the links. And what about PE 2 and other projects ? Smile
Thanks
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Is push really 100 percent reliable? what does the book cost?
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It is!
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It is!

Hmmmm, are we sure that 'it is' is a full and correct answer to a potential purchaser.

Perhaps it would be worthwhile pointing out that Push is very reliable assuming certain conditions are met. These include, but are not limited to, the experience of the performer, the connection with the spectator, the environment, the context, stage/spectator management, and performers knowledge/belief of the principles.

It's not 100% under all and any circumstances, but the above can help make it as reliable as most will need.
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Fair enough. I was on the go when I wrote my initial response, so I didn't have time to write a full answer out. What you said is definitely true- a good performance is contingent on those things. In my experience though and with Aaron's tips, it is extremely reliable.
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Thx for answer.. do not know the method but if its about suggestion/nlp/psychology it is usually never 100% reliable.. could be something different with hypnosis..

anyhow: still curious: whats the price of the book?
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Thx for answer.. do not know the method but if its about suggestion/nlp/psychology it is usually never 100% reliable.. could be something different with hypnosis..

anyhow: still curious: whats the price of the book?

It's about £175 or US$270. It's a nicely produced paperback book that contains a lot more than 'Push'. Aaron can give you more details if you get in touch with him on here.

I think part 2 is coming out this year but again Aaron can tell you more.
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I received the book and Aaron was VERY kind and helped with all he can, 10/10 customer service.

about the book... I only read it very fast and jumping from here to there, only stopping at "invisible rope" and "push".

I tried "invisible rope" and it worked wonderfully, very very entertaining.
"push" didn't go as planned, but I'm no dissapointed because my wife is VERY sceptic and difficult to work with (but she felt "invisible rope" very vividly).
with all the tips of Aaron, I can see it working almost 100%.

all the routines seems very engaging and I can see myself enjoying them very much. I'll write again when I tried them.

highly recommended book, worth the price.
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I only read it very fast and jumping from here to there, only stopping at "invisible rope" and "push".

It sounds like you are talking about your first try before reading the book itself. That's a clear A+ for gumption, but also remember that each "effect" in the book is just a demonstration of a principle. If Push is taken out of its context and used like a mentalism effect, it is kind of neutered. Push is my go-to demonstration with skeptics for a lot of reasons, as is discussed elsewhere in the book.

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Perhaps it would be worthwhile pointing out that Push is very reliable assuming certain conditions are met. These include, but are not limited to, the experience of the performer, the connection with the spectator, the environment, the context, stage/spectator management, and performers knowledge/belief of the principles.

To be fair, a thumb tip is very reliable assuming certain conditions are met. These include, but are not limited to, the experience of the performer, the connection with the spectator, the environment, the context, stage/spectator management, and performers knowledge/belief of the principles. Without those, nothing works, not even After Effects, which is as it should be. The day someone writes to say that my work is perfect if you have no talent and hate your participants, I'm cashing in my chips and going home.

But when we imagine connection, belief, and so on, is it something that is "managed" or "used," or is it something that opens worlds for us? I think a big part of what we're really talking about here is whether something like Push has the same limitations as ideas that performers are familiar with, like postural sway suggestions or DR, when in fact it is an extremely different beast. Certainly these methods will vary depending on whose hands they are in, but we also know that several people are now using Push on stage or in high-stakes situations without any worry, as I have been doing for years. It absolutely will not fit everyone, which is, again, as it should be.
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