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Plus a cool nick name like The Iron Curtain.
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There have been sixteen head to head games between the Steelers and the Seahawks. Each team has won eight. If you discount the abominably officiated Superbowl which the officials gave to Pittsburgh (for which several officials later apologized), Seattle is actually ahead.

But, in any case, the teams of years past are not the same teams that are playing today.

How did the Steelers do last year? 8-8. Seattle was 13-3.

in 2013, the Steeler had their worst start since 1934.

The present odds for Seattle to win the 2015 Superbowl are 7-1. Pittsburgh is 32-1.

Seems like the Steelers have a long way to go to regain their former glory. But I'm sure it's comforting for their fans to live in the past.
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What they said:

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On Jul 15, 2014, RNK wrote:
6 Superbowl wins for Steelers and One for Seattle. You guys have a long way to go......


What we heard:

"OK, we were 8-8 in a subpar conference, but if you go back 35-40 years, you'll see that we're really quite an outstanding franchise."
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Good point, Lobo. It also should be noted that Seattle wasn't even an NFL team back in Pittsburgh's glory years.
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Sounds like a great concept for a time travel movie. Would today's Seahawks beat yesterdays Steelers?

The Seahawks are probably quicker and bigger, but are they tough and mean enough?
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On Jul 15, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:
There have been sixteen head to head games between the Steelers and the Seahawks. Each team has won eight. If you discount the abominably officiated Superbowl which the officials gave to Pittsburgh (for which several officials later apologized), Seattle is actually ahead.

But, in any case, the teams of years past are not the same teams that are playing today.

How did the Steelers do last year? 8-8. Seattle was 13-3.

in 2013, the Steeler had their worst start since 1934.

The present odds for Seattle to win the 2015 Superbowl are 7-1. Pittsburgh is 32-1.

Seems like the Steelers have a long way to go to regain their former glory. But I'm sure it's comforting for their fans to live in the past.


No matter how you try to spin it Bob, the dominant organization over the years is the Steelers. I know it's hard for you to accept and sometimes the truth does hurt.
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Also Bob- you are wrong. Please see link: http://www.footballdb.com/teamvsteam.html?tm=28&opp=25

There has been 17 meetings between the two teams and the Steelers lead the series 9-8.
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No matter how you try to spin it, RNK, the Steelers former glory is just that- former.

(But, then again, aren't good fans supposed to be talking smack to each other? It's part of the fun of the game. Don't take it too seriously. If I lived in Pittsburgh I'd be rooting for the Steelers as well. But I don't. I live in Seattle, so it's "Go Hawks!")
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The Steelers were certainly the dominant organization over the years ('74-'79).
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

"...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us."
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Like you said, 34 to 40 years ago.
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One SERIOUS advantage to being a Bears fan is it is quite easy to keep track of victories in the Super Bowl and when they were a dominant team.
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The fact remains that the Chicago Bears still have the most players in the Hall of Fame.
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Here is some more smack for you Bob:

Steelers overall regular season record: 569-519-20
Seahawks overall regular season record: 293-303-0

Playoff record for Steelers: 33-21
Playoff record for Seahawks: 12-12

Superbowls: Steelers won 6 out of 8 appearances
Seahawks won 1 out of 2 appearances

To even be considered America's Team you would think they would at least have over a .500 record?????
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Look how popular the Cubs are. Sort of kills your theory huh?
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Live in the past RNK. In the present, the Seahawks are the best team in the NFL and will prove it again this year.

And, as noted earlier, the all time record between Pittsburg and Seattle is 9-8. Discounting the abominably called Superbowl for which Referee Leavey later apologized for making bad calls that impacted the game, the teams are statistically even.

Honestly, how well do you think your present day Steelers would do against the current Seattle team? Honestly.
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Again Bob- can't keep crying over spilled milk. Seattle LOST the Superbowl against the Steelers period. Can't spin it any other way- you cannot magically change the record book. Second- Steelers have two Superbowl wins within the last 8 years! Seattle JUST finally won ONE in how many years???? ALOT. lol! So if living in the past means within the last ten years- I sure will live in the past. There still are teams that have not even won ONE yet.

Steelers- one of the best and still one of the best, most popular organizations in the NFL today!

Seattle??? Well- Ok. Finally won ONE Superbowl. Hat's off to the seahawks for FINALLY winning one....
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How many years have the Steelers been in existence? How many years have the Seahawks been around?

BIG difference. But if you insist on living in the past, compare the first thirty years of the Seahawks to the first thirty of Pittsburgh.

Also, you have noticeably avoided my question, so I'll ask it again- How do you think today's Steelers would fare against today's Seahawks?
(Hint- it would be no contest.)

Go Hawks!
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Given that Seattle has four players from USC on its roster compared to only one (though an exceptional one: Troy Polamalu) for Pittsburgh, it's clear that Seattle is far and away the better team.
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Also, RNK, the Steelers' 2013 record of 8-8 in a subpar division pretty much proves the point regarding the current teams. Compare the Steelers's division to the teams in the NFL West.
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I don't think you want to see the comparison Bob. Not very good- Seahawks look even worse. They began in 1976. So first 30 years would bring them to 2006- where their winning percentage would be worse. I know it's tough to accept. It definitely would hurt me to if my team was ranked 18th amongst the rest for popularity and was arguing with someone whose team had 6 Superbowl wins to my measly one. I feel your pain.
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