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I just purchased this from Penguin because recently, I've become more interested in memory/pseudo memory effects. This effect is fantastic. It gives you the ability to apparently memorize half (or as much as you'd like) of a deck. I was very surprised and delighted by the method used as it's so simple and natural. It was a wow moment. I really enjoy it because it looks like a true demonstration of memory and not a trick. There is a LITTLE bit of memory work, but only if you choose to actually memorize something. You can truly do this routine without memorizing a thing and it is sure-fire.

In the crediting, they mention Nardi, Brown, and Cassidy for a devious pa***t s***ch, so you know it's good! If you've been looking for a straightforward, simple, powerful memory demonstration that is sure fire, believe able, and instantly reset, then this is a winner!
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Thanks for the info, I have been considering getting this but wanted to hear some reviews first.
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I haven't seen this but I'd love to know how it is different from my published effect, "Card Memory." (And I don't know why they'd credit me for a p****t s****h since my routine doesn't use one.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHU9NZE......s5rZ5u9w

Note that my routine was first released nearly twenty years ago.
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Bob,

It's probably more akin to Plerophoria of Derren's than your Card Memory routine. I think you are credited because you have popularized the Schwartzman (and Daley)? Move. I don't own it, but that is my guess. This a deduction from the comments and the credits.
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Bob here are some differences:

Only half of a deck is used
A c**b is used- you do not need to make anything as it comes standard in every deck of cards. If you've been using cards long enough, you don't even need to look at it once you know how it works
There is a s**ck for only half the deck
You do not call out the value and suit of each card- only do this at times for extra convincers, but you certainly could if you wanted to
This is instantly reset- I know yours is as well as long as cards aren't dropped on stage
You "memorize" the cards as the audience deals through the other half as a timer
The s***ch used is the same as Nardi's ESP routine - the name eludes me right now but I'm sure others will cite it

Overall, Bob's is more thorough and can play much bigger as we've all seen. This is more suited for casual performances but can easily be worked into a walkaround or stand up show. I would rather do Bob's routine for standup. Overall, I'm happy with the purchase. I've learned about a new c**b that I can hopefully adapt and apply to other situations and ideas.

Bob, Your routine is on you Billet Killers Instant Download. Correct? I remember watching the explanation and thinking that it was something I really wanted to invest time into learning. I'll rewatch to see if I can find more differences.
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We need to move this downstairs.

The move belongs to Howard Schwartzman and Jacob Daley. The only distinction I can find is being done on an X or Y axis.

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Sean
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Thanks. It does sound completely different. I got confused when it talked about crediting me with a move that isn't used in my routine.

But, yes, the move I adapted and have used for envelopes as well, was originated by Howie Schwartzmann. The big difference is that I do it, as Sean noted, on a different axis- forth and back rather than criss-cross. The hands don't cross at all in my handling.
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Bob ~

The s****h I learned years (decades?) ago from Howie and immediately converted to the same axis you use. It looks better and is much more deceptive than the other axis. That said isn't it found in Corinda with an envelope? I seem to recall that getting me thinking in the first place.

But that said the Daley maneuver can be quite useful and I have some work on that that I'll be happy to share with you when we are face to face. Too difficult to write up.

~ Dan
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Dan-

The Corinda thing is different. Without exposing it here in any detail, it's really just a matter of holding up the same envelope twice from a stack.

I call it a "thing" rather than a move, because there is no move at all, really.
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I did this today for my dad, who is my barometer. He asked if I had anything new. He loved it. I usually can tell if something is a worker or not based on his reaction. He's been watching me perform for nearly 15 years now and has attended SAM/IBM meetings. While not a magician or mentalist, he has tremendous background knowledge. He loves the art and has read many of my books but has not practiced or performed. So, I met him for lunch today and showed him this as a barebones work in progress. He really liked it and we discussed what made it a great effect. One of the biggest reasons I feel it's so good is it shys away from being too perfect. You call out mostly values, and only sometimes call out value and suit. It makes it much more believable.
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