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On Jul 27, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:
So is every white resident in Hawaii. (To SOME)

But since you don't live there now, you're not currently haole.


No, I'm haole for life.

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I'm saying that an instinct to dislike or fear the unfamiliar, or the "other," is natural. Hate focused on destroying the other is learned.

But, you're right, it doesn't really matter since we both agree that both must be targeted.
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Hate, it could be provoked. Arguing there is no difference is the cause of many of the homosexuals problems it seems to me. Most people couldn't care less if they are gay or not. It is the ridiculous argument, that they start, claiming there is no difference between two men and a man and women which causes some people to hate them. Especially when the argument is aimed a their children.
Also there are millions of victims of homosexual molestation out there who probably hate homosexuals and who could blame them.
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There are millions of victims of heterosexual molestation as well. But pedophilia is entirely different. Pedophiles aren't interested in adults of either sex- it is the children, not their sex, that they are fixated upon.
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There are millions of victims of heterosexual molestation as well.

Jeff already knows this, and it's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
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There are millions of victims of heterosexual molestation as well.

Jeff already knows this, and it's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.


Of course Jeff knows this. But, then again, I was responding to tommy not Jeff, who stated there were "millions of victims of homosexual molestation" out there.
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On Jul 27, 2014, S2000magician wrote:
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There are millions of victims of heterosexual molestation as well.

Jeff already knows this, and it's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

Of course Jeff knows this. But, then again, I was responding to tommy not Jeff, who stated there were "millions of victims of homosexual molestation" out there.

My mistake: I meant tommy, not Jeff.

Nevertheless, that there are millions of victims of heterosexual molestation is still irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
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As was tommy's post- I was merely responding to it. But I'll make sure to PM my next post to you before I post it so I can get a ruling on its relevance. Smile
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There are multiple discussions at hand, IMO.
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On Jul 28, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:
As was tommy's post- I was merely responding to it. But I'll make sure to PM my next post to you before I post it so I can get a ruling on its relevance. Smile

If you can pursuade tommy to do the same, it would be a big help.

Thanks.
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There are multiple discussions at hand, IMO.

Don't complify the simplicated side.
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I do agree that we tend to form groups. It's when we use these groups to villify (sp) and attack (sometimes physically) those people who are too far outside our group that I think is wrong.

That's hatred, that's wrong.

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Hate, it could be provoked. Arguing there is no difference is the cause of many of the homosexuals problems it seems to me. Most people couldn't care less if they are gay or not. It is the ridiculous argument, that they start, claiming there is no difference between two men and a man and women which causes some people to hate them. Especially when the argument is aimed a their children.
Also there are millions of victims of homosexual molestation out there who probably hate homosexuals and who could blame them.


Tommy, "homosexual" molesters aren't gay. They are repulsed by the concept of sex with men. They are child molesters and need to be put away for a long time. However, saying it's understandable that a man molested by such a molester should therefore hate gays would then imply that any women who was molested by a man as a chld (and there are more of them) should therefore hate men. I think you would protest that you should not be compared to a child molester, don't you?
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On Jul 31, 2014, ed rhodes wrote:
I do agree that we tend to form groups. It's when we use these groups to villify (sp) and attack (sometimes physically) those people who are too far outside our group that I think is wrong.


That was exactly my point. I appreciate that you could say it so much more concisely than I could.

The reason I wanted to make the distinction is that is is not "wrong", per se, to belong to the group who believes that homosexuality is a sin. But acting on that belief to hurt, discriminate against, or deny gay people their civil rights on the basis of that belief is wrong.

Being citizens of a pluralistic democracy is to belong to a group whose interests supercede my smaller group's beliefs.
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I agree completely with that, Jeff.
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Now if only these same people would recognize the 2nd amendment.


Yeah, "well-regulated militias" should be allowed to carry guns openly into restaurants.
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I didn't read all 8 pages, so I haven't picked a side yet on the debate on pg 2, nor do I know if there's another issue that requires a stance by this point...... - just wanted to say hi
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