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geggy
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On Aug 9, 2014, IAIN wrote:
Its still not the right thing to do...and its not wise to name methods and techniques so openly...

it costs money, and takes a great deal of effort to learn them and put them to good use - why should I then throw those terms and uses around so freely on an open and searchable forum?


Which begs the question why is this an open forum. . .After 50 posts you can go to the banquet. . But they talk more in code there, than is spoken in the public domain of this forum. . Never got my head around this. .
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I'm the creator of CubeSum and I did not appreciate the judgment of Chris who does not own the object in question and he has expressed opinions that damage my reputation.

Really shameful! Smile
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Max Maven has appreciated CubeSum and he has kindly offered for a photo:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img835/2947/8uki.jpg
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This is a fantastic piece to intro mathematical speed skills. I do it as described above. I don't have spectators roll, just configure so that I can associate numbers with colors quickly at a glance. I only do the actual addition part twice in my routine. There is a build up to the 6 dice. I actually use it before I do cube roots quickly. It's an excellent set up piece, it's easy to do with professionally made dice, and I use it, which is more than I can say about a lot of other more expensive effects I've bought.
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On Aug 23, 2014, twistedace wrote:
This is a fantastic piece to intro mathematical speed skills. I do it as described above. I don't have spectators roll, just configure so that I can associate numbers with colors quickly at a glance.

As I suggest in the instruction sheet: "Instead of asking to roll the dice, and then rotating the ones with the same top colors, you could ask the spectator
to line them up according to their preference of colors (from the most favorite one to the least favorite one). In this way you will give a personal touch to the effect".

Also, as always specified in the instructions:

"Although these dice were conceived to be used close up with a table, with a few adjustments, they could also be used in parlor or stage situations:

Invite six spectators to come up to help you, and show them the six dice (perhaps placed in a transparent bowl) and six markers (or small discs or balls) each with a different color (the colors must be the same ones of the faces of the dice). Also show your prediction, and keep it in full sight. While you have your back turned, ask the spectators to each choose a die and a marker.

Then tell them to name the number that is on the face of the die with the color of the marker they chose (a seventh spectator could write down each number named on a large block notice or drawing board). The six numbers are added up and the total will match your prediction.

The effect can be repeated... In this second phase, you could count to three, and at your three, the six spectators could announce all together the number (on the face matching the color of their marker) of their die. The audience will hear the voices of the six spectators confused and overlapping and will hardly be able to distinguish any of the numbers named! However, after a moments concentration, needed, you say “to mentally isolate each voice”, you will be able to announce the total (or write it on a large sheet of paper or drawing board).

Finally, ask the spectators to add up the six numbers, and show that the two totals are once again matching. You will be sure to receive applause!"
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This is one of the possible presentation of CubeSum realized with some prototypes of the dice. In this case I have to perform the effect and I am not the person in the official video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBoh0bvnUP0
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I am considering purchasing but I don't understand why the dice have to all be turned over to have a color of each. To me eliminated the roll would make more sense. Just speaking opinion but that is the first thing I noticed.
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On Aug 24, 2014, magicogreg wrote:
This is one of the possible presentation of CubeSum realized with some prototypes of the dice. In this case I have to perform the effect and I am not the person in the official video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBoh0bvnUP0


I really like this presentation and it has sold me on it. Ordering tomorrow!
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On Aug 9, 2014, TuneHV wrote:
Why have them throw the dice? It makes no sense to have them do that, then say change the dice so all the colors are different. That is completely unjustified and not a motivated move. You are basically telling your spectator to eliminate the randomness of the dice throw.

I think its much stronger to present the dice, show the numbers/colors, indicate that the same color has a different number on each die (thats a key point), then have them arrange the dice in any selection they like with different colors, and proceed with the revelation from there.

I don't own this, but I'm assuming this handling would work based on whats been dicussed. With this approach, the spectator will feel they have complete control over everything.


I am with you on "why throw the dice." However, I think we could alter this to make it not raise such question. Just guessing. It's priced reasonable.
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I received this last week... I love it. You can easily do the presentation I mentioned earlier where you have them arrange the dice as they like without a throw.
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I always loved mental logs as a kid. I will buy this for the fun of telling the story. Anyone thought of comparing speed of calc/smartphone/magician as in mental logs?

I love this Smile
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I do mostly Rubik's cube tricks so this caught my eye as something I can add to my repertoire that kind of sticks with the theme but Im struggling with the patter to go from one to the other seamlessly. Can anyone offer any suggestions?
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How many different totals can you get using this set of dice?
John C
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Funny today I was perusing the international magic website and saw this trick. I searched the Café and sure enough I saw I posted here in 2014.

Well it does still look good and they are in stock. I will be getting one.

https://www.internationalmagic.com/product-cube-sum.html
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On Aug 6, 2014, geggy wrote:
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On Aug 6, 2014, IAIN wrote:
There is a "thing" you have to do each time. One is physical, one is mental (if you want to repeat it)...

both are very simple, and 'minor'...

very well made dice too...




One is physical. . . Does this mean it's a misleading demo? The performer doesn't appear to touch the die. . .just turns round and predicts the total sum of the faces . . .



Just because a card trick Demo doesn't outline the slights used to perform it does this mean the demo is misleading?

Just because a mental book test demo doesn't outline the method does this mean the demo is misleading?

This is magic man it's all misleading! Haha

Seriously, what you see in the demo is what you will be able to do. If you want to do this then get the trick. Of course there is always something "left out" it's magic. Or is it?

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I just received this and like it a lot. The dice are quality and I would be happy to carry them and perform this effect.

It's a very straight up demo.
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