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Rolyan
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On Jul 23, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:
Freedom of speech is a wildly misunderstood concept. All it says is that the GOVERNMENT may not regulate speech. It has nothing whatsoever to do with privately owned entities, such as Internet forums.

Yes, that's definitely the legal position as applied in some countries. But there is a much wider moral position.
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I'm speaking of the United States where that is the case.

The moral position is somewhat murky, since allowing absolute freedom of speech would necessarily include hate speech, threatening speech, yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, etc.
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Yes indeedy, the moral position is not an easy one. As the moderators appear to have discovered.

Anyway, I don't want to derail my own thread, which was more concerned with the hysteria and over exuberation that greets new releases. It can't all be put down to lack of knowledge and experience, although some clearly is.
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Based on what I see here at the Café, I'd say that MOST of it clearly is.
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On Jul 23, 2014, David Thiel wrote:
Here's the thing: I think the person writing the review needs to realize that whether a prop/method/idea works in any given performance really is, most of the time, a highly subjective matter.


Of course, any review is subjective on some level, but how does this make a positive review worth posting and a negative review not worth posting? If subjectivity is the problem, shouldn't the usefulness of both positive and negative reviews be called into question?

And reviews aren't always totally subjective. For example, whether or not an item performs as described is an objective fact.

If I see that a Café member has never posted anything critical, I subsequently tend to take anything they say with a mountain of salt. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who does this.
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On Jul 24, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:
Based on what I see here at the Café, I'd say that MOST of it clearly is.

You cab get away with saying that, because you are Bob Freakin Cassidy. I just thought it!
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With regard to negative reviews (or lack thereof) purely from a personal point of view.

I have had enough experiences of finding something to be of little use to me, or impractical or transparent, and put it aside.
Only to later come back to it with a different viewpoint/frame of mind whatever and realise the nugget of gold that I previously overlooked.

Or found great value in things that others have rubbished.

For this reason I feel that any negative feelings I have for something may be quite likely to be my fault rather than the product.
For that reason I feel it not necessarily appropriate to post any misgivings I may have about some new release.

I know there are those who think this approach is unbalanced, but this is my policy. Just thought I'd share that.

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On Jul 19, 2014, Rolyan wrote:
Has anyone else noticed the near hysteria that greets the release of the latest effect, book, DVD from our favourite mentalists (you decide who yours is). It sometimes appears that there is an almost uncontrolled outpouring of excessive glee when something is released, followed quickly by breast beating depression if we fail to get it.

To me, there's sometimes a child like enthusiasm that is not altogether encouraging, and I'm trying to understand where it comes from. In my experience excessive zeal is often followed by burnout, which is not what we want obviously.

This is purely 'magical' philosophy and I appreciate that most will not even ponder it. But I'm genuinely interested to know why we appear to be creating zealots who appear to have uncontrollable desires for the next best thing.



What a great topic! In my opinion, a sugar crash is always inevitable for a zealot. Some regain balance after equilibrium returns, yet I agree, for others there appears to be an almost comical need for more, more, more (zombies anyone?). "I bought it, now you must buy it. I KNOW what I'm talking about." Consumerism is the new altruism. We're just people helping other people, right? I believe we can give thanks to the likes of AmAz0n, FA[E-B00K and U-T00B along with the entire new "own superstar" culture. Hyping a product on a forum gives some a great sense of importance regardless of what or how good the merchandise is. The importance lies in 'WHO's selling it, and the WHO's importance' in the zealot's mind (echoed by other parrots?).

That said...I don't think it's an issue of "we appear to be creating zealots" - but a techno-illogical society issue in general. As for a "mentalism burnout" this century, I highly doubt it. Those who are meant to stay, will stay. How many people have come and gone since you first started in magic or mentalism? I'm sure you've seen many. Fads change but people generally don't. I think we are only exposed to this "zealousness" more today than ever before because we spend too much time in front of a screen...almost as if our lives depended on it.

I usually find it quite entertaining to see how some express their ravenous nature over the latest release. At times, the ensuing orgy of opinion and occassional (albeit unfortunate) exposure has indeed helped me make a decision as to whether the latest release might be appropriate for me or not.

Whew! I gotta go now and upload a video to FB and update my profile...important stuff you understand.
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Gunna have to go with him on that one pretty much sums up all my feelings leading up to a new release in one meme
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