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Randwill Inner circle 1914 Posts |
I am looking to replace a small dye tube that I have had for many years and I don't know the brand of it or where it came from. It is made of tan plastic. It is the diameter of an American penny (3/4") and it is 1 3/4" long. The top is just the opening of the tube and the bottom is rolled in slightly. There is no internal tape/ribbon. Very simple.
If you know where I can purchase another like this I would appreciate the info. |
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plink Special user 661 Posts |
Sounds like the gimmick I got years ago with Tenyo's Chameleon Silks.
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jimgerrish Inner circle East Orange, NJ 3209 Posts |
Sounds like dozens I have made for myself from plastic mailing tubes (3/4 inch diameter) cut to size, and rolled in one end on a hot frying pan. Leave clear, paint with plastic paint, or wrap with flesh color bandage material. Currently I am making ribbon strap dye tubes from toothpick holders, but that's another story and will be found in my next e-Book on the Mis-Made Flag Cabby coming soon to The Wizards' Journal #27.
Jim Gerrish
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5445 Posts |
Metal versions have thinner walls than the plastic ones. You are describing what Harold Rice called a Simplex Dye Tube". It is still for sale by Silk King Studios (Harold's daughter Ruth runs it).
http://www.silkkingmagic.com/Rice's%20Simplex.htm Other magic dealer's might sell a version too. As Jim points out they are not that difficult to make.
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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JNeal Inner circle I used to have 999 posts, now I have 1623 Posts |
It should be noted that the difference between what is being described by the OP and the Simplex dye tube is that the Simpley has a rolled , turned in edge at both ends...and the one the OP is looking for has only one end turned in...and the other end is flush cut.
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5445 Posts |
My bad! I stand corrected. The one I have (and I thought I had bought it directly from Harold Rice in the early 70s) is turned in at only one end. Hummmmmm...now I wonder where I got the thing!
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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Randwill Inner circle 1914 Posts |
Thanks folks. Plink nailed it. It must be a Tenyo Chameleon Silk gimmick, which means I've had it since those were first put on the market. I'm pretty sure since I found one on eBay with a clear picture. So I ordered it. It was only $6.00 with free shipping which is less than I would put into finding the right size tube and cutting and coloring it myself.
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5445 Posts |
You got a good deal for a prop you are very familure with. No hassle in making one and no learning curve to speak of.
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
The old ones seem to be made better than the newer ones.
Mister Mystery
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
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On Jul 26, 2014, Regan wrote: That's the statement of the century, Regan!
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
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iugefu Veteran user 387 Posts |
This tube does work great-with small silks.
Now if someone knows of a slightly larger version to accommodate two 12inch silks that would be magic. |
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bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 7024 Posts |
The Simplex that Harry stated above is the best one made today. And will handle 12 inch silk's fine.
Todd |
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
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Bob Sanders 1945 - 2024 Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
The old ones were indeed superior to what I see out there now. However, magicians are certainly in a position to solve that problem.
I have found that my real favorite dye tubes were made from plastic pill bottles and cloth Band-Aids. The length and diameters are in many variations that actually FIT the loads used. Give up being helpless and do magic! PS --- I find that by putting a small tab on the outside, I can even hold my hands flat and dye tube side down giving a very convincing demonstration of an "EMPTY" hand. |
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StevieDee Regular user Salt Lake City area 154 Posts |
Needing a dye tube that would hold a larger silk, I went to Hobby Lobby and purchased a normal-sized papier-mâché egg (they don't seem to have them online, but you can find them in the stores). In actuality, it's a black plastic egg covered with brown kraft paper. You can use a sharp knife to cut holes in the top and bottom, or you can do what I did and sand off the ends with a circular sanding machine--works great. With the kraft paper cover, you don't even need to paint it flesh color. You can handle it just like a regular dye tube.
I also added a 1" brass book binding post (see http://brass-neutral-links.blogspot.com/) to the side of the egg. You can get them at stationery stores. This acts like a tab or stud so I can even back palm the egg, similar to the old Nikko ball (see Rice Silk Encyclopedia Vol I, pg 137 or http://www.stevensmagic.com/shop/nikko-ball-viking/), except the stud is on the side instead of at the bottom. |
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bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 7024 Posts |
I made a couple of dye tube's from pvc tubing. Work's really well. And painted them flesh color.
Todd |
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Howie Diddot Inner circle San Francisco & Los Angeles California 3288 Posts |
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On Aug 8, 2014, iugefu wrote: Laflin's Palmo Silk Gimmick will hold two eighteen inch silks |
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iugefu Veteran user 387 Posts |
I have now found a neat solution to Billy McCombs half dyed silk routine -a great effect but I never did take a fancy to the 'switch' and use of 2 DT - I am now using a Silk King dye tube(or similar) which accommodates 12 inch silks....no 'blocker' in the tube.
I now use (prepare) two 9 inch silks in there - in my case a black silk and a black/white half dyed silk - black goes at the bottom of the dye tube,next the half dyed silk, white end first - and you are set. The white silk goes in, comes out black - black now goes in, comes out white (half dyed)- works great with no need to switch! I can also see this working as a pseudo audience 'reveal' - change black to white- transfer dye tube 'of the finger' back into hand; Want to see how its done? you ask.. I use 2 hankies- pulling the black hanky (up) out of your hand(tube) - keep your hand up- replace the black hanky......keep it here in your hand, you say.Next the white hanky gets inserted, the black half comes out , ( and you end up with the half dyed hanky). |
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iugefu Veteran user 387 Posts |
I mention above that I use a half dyed black/white silk - not quite true, more like two halves diagonally stitched together.
I have had no real luck with the dye- I have a question- Anybody knows anyone who sells half dyed 9 inch silks? - or bigger that I can cut and stitch to 9 inch size -any colour'-thank you |
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