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wilson.stewart
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Hey everybody, I was wandering who all has attended Marc Savard's hypnosis traning? I would like to know what your opinion was of it, if it was worth it, and how much it cost for you to attend it. Thank you very much for anything you have to offer!

P.S. I understand that there is already an old topic on this. I simply thought it was time to start a new one.
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Why is it time to start a new thread?

You either have an agenda against Marc, or a product to hawk. Go away and come back when you can show a bit of class.
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I was wondering the exact same thing?
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Hey, I have nothing against Marc! I just am trying to get some information about his training and I didn't know if people would still reply if I posted on that old thread. I am trying to get information quickly because the whole "Early Bird" discount is coming up on the 22nd and I'm trying to do some research before that time. Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude in my original post.
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Wilson, if you had replied to the earlier thread it would have jumped to the top and we would have seen it. And if you had given your reasons for inquiry in your original post, we would have replied in a different fashion.

I know nothing at all about Marc, aside from the fact that he has a good reputation as a performer. I have attended another Vegas entertainers courses, Justin Tranz, and he teaches his own slant on stage shows. It works very well, and he over-delivers in training, giving more of himself than he promises. I can recommend him highly. As for Marc, can't help. Sorry.
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Marc is one of the good guys. While I have never taken his training (he's never offered it to me) but I know who he's studied with, seen his show and have checked out some of his materials and approach. I like it and I like him. We've both been asked to appear at the same training and industry events, although we've never done so and been there together at the same time. I think he would be a safe option, but of course it also depends on your specific interests and needs which you have not shared with us.
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Thanks guys for answering. Once again, apologizes for having terrible posting etiquette. I am totally new to the way Magic Café works, and frankly, forum posting in general. Well, at least I won't make the same mistakes again!

Let me explain my situation a bit more. I am an amateur hypnotist who has been interested in hypnosis for about 4 years, and actually doing it for about a year. I have hypnotized roughly 8 people during this time, all using instant inductions. While this is a rather small number, I have mostly spent my time trying to understand what hypnosis is and WHY it works, not just how to do it. I am fairly certain that I understand the science behind it now. I started getting more serious about hypnosis about two months ago and have recently come to the conclusion that it is what I would like to do as a career after high school (I am currently going to be a junior in high school, yet am old enough to be a senior). That is, I would like to be a comedy stage hypnotist. I received the opportunity to talk to a hypnotist that performed at our county fair this year. His name is Tyzen Paley (you may have heard of him) and he so happens to be a personal friend of Marc Savard. He's also from Vegas and apparently covers for Marc from time to time. Anyway, I told him my situation and thoughts, and he recommended me to Marc's training. I would really like to go, as I feel it would really help me down my intended career path, however I simply don't have $3000 dollars lying around. To make a rather long story a little shorter, I am trying to get as much information together about Marc's training to hopefully prove to my parents that he is legitament and that it would be worth the time and money for me to attend Marc's training.

I really do appreciate you guys taking the time to share your knowledge and to help an up-and-coming hypnotist. Thanks!
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Wilson, that is a steep price to pay for training at your age. That is not a comment on its value, merely on its cost to you. Justin Tranz also offers good training, but I think the price is high as well. There are good trainers out there, but maybe that is not where you need to start.

The key thing to a successful comedy hypnosis show is to be a confident presenter, and that costs less to achieve! Joining a local speakers club such as Toastmasters International, is a cheap way of getting high quality training. Acting classes also help. A few open spots at a local comedy club will also help. You have a long life ahead of you with plenty of time to learn the nuts and bolts of hypnosis. I would suggest working on what will be your core skills (showmanship and presentation) in the meanwhile.

I did my first hypnosis show fifteen years ago, but didn't do my first training until three years ago. I have trained with Anthony Jacquin and Justin, and found both beneficial. But I got through twelve years of shows first! I am not saying this is a good approach, but I do suggest you keep working on things until the finances fall into place for your training. Don't put things on hold. Keep hypnotising people, keep reading, and go to the comedy clubs and speakers clubs.

Best of luck with it.
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On the other hand if your parents are going to pay for it jump in with both feet. Then go out and do some paid shows. Depending upon where you are you should make the money back and learn faster by doing real shows.I personally wouldn't wait if there is a market in your area.You will cut through years of messing about by doing a good training. Many years ago ~I jumped in did a training that was expensive. But I was in profit after only three shows. And they were small shows. I was pretty rough but I learned fast by doing shows. I believe ~Marc's courses teach about the business side too? If so then and there is a market in your area (you need to check)and you want to do paid shows that's what I would do.

Just another point of view to confuse you further.
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I'm guessing he's not in the states.
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Really? I'm guessing he's from Wyoming.

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On Aug 11, 2014, Mindpro wrote:
I'm guessing he's not in the states.
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I thought Micronesia.
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Are you talking about Tyzen? If so, he's from Las Vegas. He performs at lots of county fairs around the western United States. He's actually quite good. I got introduced to hypnosis by watching his show. If you want more info, visit his site: www.Tyzen.com. If you're talking about me, I already said, I'm from Wyoming.
Thank you Tony for your advice. Yes, maybe I am jumping in a bit early to expensive formal training. The only reason I was going to do it now was because this is going to be Marc's last live training ever. And from what I have researched, he seems to be one of the best out there when it comes to stage training. Also, (to confirm mindpunisher's assumption), the second part of the course does go over the business side of a stage show (how to market, get gigs, contracts, etc.).

However, I like mindpunisher's point that if I was able to get a few shows soon, I would soon recoup my expense. Just to clarify, I would eventually have to pay back my parents.

I'm not sure if there's demand in my area for hypnotists. There's honestly not really any comedy clubs or the like in Wyoming. It's rather unfortunate for me.
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I have never done a comedy club Tyzen.

I did the university circuits, night clubs, hotels and theaters. Which were a great market when I was at my peak. I wouldn't advise anyone in my area to do an expensive hypnosis course from a business point of view only because the market is no longer viable these days.

You will have to go outside your town and travel a bit anyway if you are to make a living with this. So what you need to do is to find out venues that offer live entertainment and find out if they would or are using hypnotists. Why not contact Marc with your concerns maybe he can help you identify a market?
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Oops just notice your name is Wilson not Tyzen..
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Alright thanks. I think you guys have mostly answered all my questions. I may be reconsidering the whole training thing after all. I still want to take a professional course, but perhaps I'll wait until after high school. I have one more question though. Stage hypnotism is definitely what I want to do as a career. However, I've been trying to find information about how good of a career it would be, from a financial standpoint. I was hoping that some of you guys might tell me what you make per show and what not, to give me a rough idea. You can PM me if that would be better. Thanks to everybody!
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Wilson, the income thing is a puzzler. The top guys in a good market can live very well. The top guys in a poor market - the UK and Ireland at the moment - will struggle. My current show is going out at US$1,100 for colleges, but I don't know how many will take that up. Pubs here will only pay $300 to $500. I do magic as my main thing, because I like to eat and pay the rent.

Yet in better markets there are guys getting four figures for every show, and turning away work.

If you are charismatic enough it is possible you can rise above the pack, and then the potential is huge.

As for the age thing, if you get other things in place (presentation, stage craft, book learning of hypnosis) you will get far more out of live training in five years time than you would now, because you will be ready then. So take your time and enjoy the journey. You will get there soon enough.
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The top guys in any market live well. But usually the majority get by if they are lucky. Hypnosis to a large degree is not just about being good. It's about being in the right place at the right time and locking yourself in to the best venues or circuit. Sometimes that can mean taking further financial risks if you decide to book the venues yourself. It can be difficult breaking in if a market is already established with many operators in the key positions.
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