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C****r M***h is featured in a Ted Talk

http://www.ted.com/talks/david_kwong_two......_s_magic
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Do I'm the only one to find his performance too much?
Anyway as he says himself, he is a magician.
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Yikes!!!

Wow that was the weakest public performance of CM I've ever watched. Shame.

It proves to me that even though the genius of PMs products make the effect easy to perform, it still requires practice and thought and preparation to be effective. This lackluster performance felt like he had few test drives with it and figured he would just perform a quickee out of the box. Yuck.

For a TED talk you would think that Kwong would have at least prepped better. One of the pens was dried out (happens but you would know if you tested it a few hours prior to show time), one color purple was forgotten, and the presentation had nothing to do with puzzles at all which is this guys specialty. Argh!

If this guy Kwong likes magic I wish he would have approached anyone here at the Café or elsewhere to brainstorm his ideas before presenting to that big an audience.

Sorry he may make amazing puzzles but the performance was a total dud IMO.
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On Aug 11, 2014, Richtofen wrote:
Do I'm the only one to find his performance too much?
Anyway as he says himself, he is a magician.
About MD, everybody does basically the same things, creativity at is best:-)


It's not MD.
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Using the printed days NY Times crossword with all the hints made no sense as the spectator was never exposed to the paper as far as we know. How would she have been subliminally influenced by the paper?

Also the spectator looked and was treated like a prop.

Sorry that's what I feel. Disappointing.

I still love Justin's presentation best.
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I thought using the NYT crossword made sense. If you watch again, he didn't say it was an influencer. It was a prediction that was even more indelible, meaning he couldn't have tampered with it.

The influencing section was constrained to the presentation portions.

I was quite impressed with the presentation as a whole.

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Using the printed days NY Times crossword with all the hints made no sense as the spectator was never exposed to the paper as far as we know. How would she have been subliminally influenced by the paper?

Also the spectator looked and was treated like a prop.

Sorry that's what I feel. Disappointing.

I still love Justin's presentation best.
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Really?
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On Aug 11, 2014, saysold1 wrote:

For a TED talk you would think that Kwong would have at least prepped better. One of the pens was dried out (happens but you would know if you tested it a few hours prior to show time), one color purple was forgotten, and the presentation had nothing to do with puzzles at all which is this guys specialty. Argh!



The purple was left out intentionally, and he did not forget it. That was his last prediction: "Oh, by the way, the sheep can be left .... (blank)". Look at 10:42.
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And the silver color didn't dry out.... that's what the silver color looks like.
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OK and how about the spectator being treated as a cardboard cutout? Very little interaction.

Look - the audience seemed cold to the performance too through the majority of it.

To me this felt like the performer was trying to use CM just for the sake of using it

I use CM all the time and I have seen many perform it - my feeing is that this was not one of the better performances.

Justin, Federico Soldati and others have creatively brought something new to CM. At yhis TED talk, the performer taught the audience nothing, and CM seems like it was shoehorned in without enough thought...as an excuse to show off a puzzle revelation.

The beauty of CM is it's visual simplicity, which is it's strength.

Alright I've ranted enough on this one.
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My 2 Cents:

First of all, I love that he stepped outside the box and made it his own! The basic effect is startling and strong but Mr. Kwong took it further for his presentation. I applaud him for making it his own.

This does not mean that I loved it. I think there was toooooooo much going on! The effect was watered down as often times less is more. Not a bad performance, but for me, it went to far.

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Maybe it was just me but the setup was too long and boring, he insulted the majority of the audience with his surveying, terrible treatment of an audience volunteer and after all of this he deems it just "coincidence"?

I think it was interesting and maybe entertaining to him and few else.
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This was great. Some in the audience even gave him a standing ovation. It was engaging.

saysold1 wrote (in a longer post):
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... one color purple was forgotten ...

He did not really forget the color purple. He said that it was forgotten, but if you watch the video all the way to the end, the final newspaper prediction makes it very clear he intentionally did not include the purple marker.

Just to show this is not just my opinion, the TED editors liked that video so much, they featured it on their home page!
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I thought the thing was forced and was not a TED Talk. I didn't learn anything, a first for a TED Talk.

It was clever, but forced.

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Here is a link to Kwong's magic website - who knew?

http://davidkwongmagic.com/
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After a minute and a half, I already disagree with his premise. I don't like the reduction of magic to the level of puzzles. But nonetheless, I've started so I'll finish...

... and the rest of the talk, I didn't mind too much. Sure, there was a dryness to his interaction with Gwen, and she was left standing too long, but the actual effect and multiple reveals demonstrated better scripting than his entire introductory speech. I didn't mind this performance nearly as much as some that I have seen.
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He also drew attention to what, in my humble opinion is the weakest aspect of the free selections, in his explanation.

Also, "Prestidigitation" isn't worth 20 points in scrabble, because the board's not big enough to play it.
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Kwong threw the reveal of the envelope contents on the floor like trash. The reveal itself was made such that it killed the amazement. That's apparent by the audience's non reaction.

His strength is puzzles without a doubt - and this was a dreadfully weak TED talk that supposedly meshed with magic. By focusing too much on the puzzle aspect he failed to take into consideration the theatricality and process to make the reveals amazing.

The odd pen color names also added to the mess.
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