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I don't have music in my kids show. Sometimes though, I wonder if it would improve the quality of my children's show if I did include music. If so, how would you select the music? Where would you find it? What do you guys think?
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I was a stick in the mud for years, calming I didn't need it, but adding music to my show has given it a whole new dimension. I would not be without it now.

Arthur Stead has some great CDs of Royalty free music.

Gary Dunn has also been a great help to me - he recommended that I use show cues and sold me a fantastic remote.

Good luck
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On Aug 22, 2014, kimmo wrote:
I was a stick in the mud for years, calming I didn't need it, but adding music to my show has given it a whole new dimension. I would not be without it now.

Arthur Stead has some great CDs of Royalty free music.

Gary Dunn has also been a great help to me - he recommended that I use show cues and sold me a fantastic remote.

Good luck


Yes me too. I agree it adds a whole new element to my performances. I don't use it in a birthday party, but all my larger shows.
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On Aug 22, 2014, kimmo wrote:
I was a stick in the mud for years, calming I didn't need it, but adding music to my show has given it a whole new dimension. I would not be without it now.

Arthur Stead has some great CDs of Royalty free music.

Gary Dunn has also been a great help to me - he recommended that I use show cues and sold me a fantastic remote.

Good luck



Where can I find a good sound system that is good for a kids show where I can cue the music? I have no idea even where to start! Also, Arthur Stead's CDs, are they found at magic shops or at Amazon.com? Where is a good place to find his CDs of royalty free music? I had purchased a royalty free soundtrack for my children's magic show demo video which I refer possible clients for children's magic shows to. But, I certainly would need some royalty free music and a good sound system which I can operate on cue as well.
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I think it's apples and oranges. You can have a good show with it or without. I've seen people use it, and it seems like it bores kids or hypnotizes them and I've seen people that use it and are hysterical with it. I've seen people that don't use it, and have a great show. It depends on you and what you do with it.
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I am tone deaf and don't listen to any music. So I would not even consider putting it in my shows. In fact I tend not to watch acts that have music in them. I will make an exception for a good circus act, but that is about it.

However, as Eric says, it is horses for courses. It might suit some people. After all, guys like me aren't in every audience.
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I agree, its how you use it. I would never have a long, drawn out musical section - I use stings and sound effects to make things funnier. My PA system has become a character in the show and misbehaves, playing the wrong songs and interrupting me when I'm trying to talk. The kids love it.
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Music can be a great tool if used appropriately. But with kids you need to make sure not to turn control of your show over to the music. If you are doing a silent bit with just music playing, what happens if a kid gets disruptive. If you interrupt the music to deal with the kid then the routine could be ruined. With kids, the kids will fill the silence and if you are not careful the music can become silence and you can lose the attention of the kids. Music can be great, just make sure the focus remains on you not the music and that you remain in control.

Personally, I do not use music in kid shows, though I have considered it at times. My style lends itself to no music most of the time. I have seen music used very poorly with kids and that turns bad quickly. I have also seen music, which was carefully placed and used, become a real asset for a kids routine. No right or wrong answer, just depends on your show. However, there is a right and wrong way to use music.
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On Aug 22, 2014, General_Magician wrote:

Arthur Stead's CDs, are they found at magic shops or at Amazon.com?


Try my website (see below). You can listen to music samples of our various CDs on the website. Also, our "Give Your Act A Music Makeover" PDF book is a fabulous resource for knowing how, where, when, and what kind of music to use.
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I think it is important to determine how most effectively to entertain your audience, and then create your show to fit your vision. Taking a boring show and adding music to it will equal a boring show in my opinion. Unless you have a thorough idea on how music is going to add to your show, it will probably not be of benefit. There are drawbacks in terms of not only financial costs, but set up time, space requirements, and the necessary knowledge to master the techknology. For many shows, music adds a ton of excitement and energy, so it does make sense to consider what it might do for your show.

There are many options you can explore, and you would be wise to read the FX section of TMC. There is a ton of information there. Also, visit a local store, such as Gutair Center and ask for advice on sound systems and remote control devices to que the sound. Once you get an idea of the options, more specific recommendations will make more sense and you can better choose what best fit your needs.
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Music can be a great tool if used appropriately. But with kids you need to make sure not to turn control of your show over to the music. If you are doing a silent bit with just music playing, what happens if a kid gets disruptive. If you interrupt the music to deal with the kid then the routine could be ruined. With kids, the kids will fill the silence and if you are not careful the music can become silence and you can lose the attention of the kids. Music can be great, just make sure the focus remains on you not the music and that you remain in control.

Personally, I do not use music in kid shows, though I have considered it at times. My style lends itself to no music most of the time. I have seen music used very poorly with kids and that turns bad quickly. I have also seen music, which was carefully placed and used, become a real asset for a kids routine. No right or wrong answer, just depends on your show. However, there is a right and wrong way to use music.
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Music can be a great tool if used appropriately. But with kids you need to make sure not to turn control of your show over to the music. If you are doing a silent bit with just music playing, what happens if a kid gets disruptive. If you interrupt the music to deal with the kid then the routine could be ruined. With kids, the kids will fill the silence and if you are not careful the music can become silence and you can lose the attention of the kids. Music can be great, just make sure the focus remains on you not the music and that you remain in control.

Personally, I do not use music in kid shows, though I have considered it at times. My style lends itself to no music most of the time. I have seen music used very poorly with kids and that turns bad quickly. I have also seen music, which was carefully placed and used, become a real asset for a kids routine. No right or wrong answer, just depends on your show. However, there is a right and wrong way to use music.


wwhokie1, you made a great point. You really have to know the right way to use music. It can be a fantastic control device for kidshows. But if it's used the wrong way, it becomes a distraction and you lose their focus.

Folks who perform our Interactive Routines (like Merlin or Skull-o-pini) know how effective the "right" music can be in a children's routine. Kids are mesmerized and totally involved from start to finish. But that's because we treated the music for those routines like a film score, using techniques which let the audience experience the onstage action on a deeper level.
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I bought an inexpensive small portable monitor speaker for around $50 from Costco. I'm sure BJ's and other wholesale outlets also sell these cheap. The audio easily fills any auditorium, and it sounds great! I'm able to play any mp3 file and control the music directly from my cell phone through Bluetooth. You can get these monitors with built in amplification and with battery backup. It's a perfect inexpensive solution for any magic show. Just make sure your phone is fully charged, or bring the charger!

Another simple solution is to use a laptop or other audio source like an ipod with a decent sounding boombox for smaller venues. You connect from the earphone jack of the audio source through the input plug of the boombox. My laptop came with a remote for controlling the music.

My only point here being that there is really no need to over complicate your sound system or spend a fortune to acquire a workable solution.

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Arthur Stead has an interactive music routine titled "The Magic In You." He suggests using it with the dream bag routine, and I use this in all my kids shows. I can't imagine doing the dream bag without this music track because it brings it to a whole new level.

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I use music in all my shows. Even if it's at lower volume for background music. Though- there are few effects that I won't use music. For instance- Comeback Bee by Tommy James would be an example where I feel music wouldn't fit.

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RNK, the exception is if you want to perform it really fast...

Then "Flight of the Bumble Bee" would be perfect! Smile

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I have a rapid fire comedy opening set to music that captures everyone's attention and establishes my skill. I also use a gentler music piece with a parent-child bonding moment just before my big close. Both are awesome Arthur & Leslie Stead pieces. As mentioned, it's all in how you use the music.
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About 1938, PARKER & WATTS CIRCUS played my home town. They paraded (all circuses paraded in those days). I was 7 years old. I watched the parade, and got very close to a tiger cage as it passed. I was "baptized" by the occupant! Thus began my fascination with mud shows. Circus brass band music, "made" the show! 75 years later, most circuses use taped or cd music. Music still "makes" the show.

In 1947, I caught Roy MAYER'S school show, in a high school. Roy had a 78 rpm record player built in a small case. He played "Canadian Capers" (an up beat tune) for his opening routine. He closed the program with a series of ball manipulations. He played another record. "78s" ran about 3 minutes, so the record "decided" how long the routine would be!!! Roy was the only school magician I ever saw that "used" music.

From my first school show in 1945, until I finally retired in 2008, I was strictly a talking act. Music would have been nice to have, but, until the last few years, it,was just too "impossible" (technically). Besides, I had devloped a talking act, "it worked" so,"I didn't fix it!"

With the technical equipment available today, a performer has available, fantastic "help".

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RNK, the exception is if you want to perform it really fast...

Then "Flight of the Bumble Bee" would be perfect! Smile

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Ah. Have to check that out Gary! Thanks!
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