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I gotta agree with Danny on that. I'm also not a huge fan of Spiderman using all that Stark tech. I hope they get away from it in future stories. On the other hand, my wife loved it.

But in Marvel's defense, I'll say that they again took what I always thought was a really lame villian, (Mysterio), and updated him for the 21st century and made him into a pretty cool villain.
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Agree completely on Mysterio.
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DC just needs more awesome mash-ups like Batman and Ninja Turtles.
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The Batman/Judge Dredd crossover story was fun
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I think DC is better than Marvel honestly.
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On Jul 9, 2019, JoshP06 wrote:
I think DC is better than Marvel honestly.


I tend to share your opinion Josh, but if you ask me why I am hard pressed to answer. The simple answer is that at about age 12 I was introduced to reading DC, and got frustrated that with Marvel, I had to keep hunting for the next issue. DC was one and done. That is not always better, and it wasn't long (the Mid to late 70's) before that changed. Still, DC was where I set my homestead and so it was. Given how often writers are traded back and forth, it seemed that you were going to get a similar product. Still, I liked DC. I'd love to hear your rationale for your statement.
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Marvel Comics and the United Nations are teaming up.

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Hi Cliff, although you and me sometimes differ, what we always agree on is DC. If we are referring to just the decade of the 60s then my preference for DC is based on the Adventure principle. Whereas with Marvel, say, Spider-Man at that time it was a constant annoyance as Peter had constant problems with high school bullies and girlfriends. I know that Marvel fans praise it for the so-called slice-of-life. But when I buy comics I want entertainment instead of soap operas.
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Some people find soap operas entertaining.
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Hi Cliff, although you and me sometimes differ, what we always agree on is DC. If we are referring to just the decade of the 60s then my preference for DC is based on the Adventure principle. Whereas with Marvel, say, Spider-Man at that time it was a constant annoyance as Peter had constant problems with high school bullies and girlfriends. I know that Marvel fans praise it for the so-called slice-of-life. But when I buy comics I want entertainment instead of soap operas.


This is EXACTLY what Stan Lee was going for. He has said it in countless interviews. He wanted his charectors to be relatable. He wanted all the flaws showing so people could see themselves in the charectors. It was a "warts and all" and a very conscious decision.

While you may not like it, and I won't try to change your mind here, it was his intention.
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I recall one early issue of Spider-Man in which half of the story was about Peter Parker trying to raise enough money for bus fare just so he could get across town to fight the villain.

Not the sort of earthy, humble, very human problem that commonly plagued DC superheroes.
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When I met my friend at McDonald's, he mentioned his disappointment at the latest Comics Omnibus that he bought. Some of the pages were stuck together so he had a devil of a time separating them without causing damage. As for myself--instead of the Omnibus books I prefer buying those hardback books that have four issues reprinted in each volume. It's because when I open the book to read it, both the left side and right side of the book lies flat. Whereas with the Omnibus it has so many pages that
the pages curve in at the spine of the book so it can be difficult to read. Actually it's called the gutter of the book because that area is inside of the book instead of outside like the spine. On the other hand, the Omnibus has the advantage of having very many issues in each whereas the thin hardbac has only 4 issues each, so buying the Omnibus saves you money. But the gutter loss is too much of a drawback for me so I prefer buying the other one.
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Anybody watching "The Boys." It is gritty, R-rated and not for the faint of heart. It was originally a comic book that was neither DC nor Marvel, but from a smaller company. I guess that gave them more freedom with less to answer for.

The show is pretty good and shows us a world where superheroes demonstrate the old adage of power corrupts etc.

Anyway, I like it.
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Saw some of it. Though read the comics back when published. The horror at the end of season one reminds me of a character in Alan Moore's MiracleMan (now owned by Marvel) who did something similar in issue 14. https://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/01/08/......printed/

So, what if he could watch brain activity too?
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Nowadays there are some comics collectors who have their vintage comics undergo Restorations. But those restorations actually lower the value of the comics so it's up to the individual which he prefers--because for display purposes I guess one would prefer a restored copy.

To purchase a really old one,i.e.,a Golden Ager, the prices of course are basically Unaffordable. So to acquire one, some collectors actually collect copies which have a Cover missing. At least this way a collector can be proud to own an actual Golden Ager.
And to go to the extreme, a collector may actually purchase a vintage copy that even has a page missing! Probably missing because the original buyer had cut out a coupon. As long as it's not missing part of the story itself, then I guess it would be tolerable.
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Interesting about collectors. There's also a market for the original artwork pages at various stages of production. Wonder if the original pages for the first few Superman stories are around. Mentioning as reprints tend to have reduced fidelity, use different paper and may be re-inked / re-colored. That's why some took their reader copies and sprayed them and may have rebound them into volumes. After seeing what happened to Kirby's New Gods and Tottleben's work on Miracleman volume three, I had mine hardbound.

Is it all what if and elseworlds these days?
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So to acquire one, some collectors actually collect copies which have a Cover missing. At least this way a collector can be proud to own an actual Golden Ager.


I was given this advice regarding my copy of Green Lantern #1 (1960)

It is not in the best of conditions, but I did try to sell it once, with no takers. I have it in Acid Free plastic, but I guess that before me it was not kept so. Pages are yellowed, and I think the next person to open it to read it will have it fall apart in their fingers.

The advice was to have it framed, and put under glass and donate it as an auction item to some not-for-profit group. The write off on my taxes the full value to a top shape book. I have not done that, but it is a thought.
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Why the fake value for taxes?
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Why the fake value for taxes?


I don't know. I think he was thinking because he can. (Or maybe he does, or has seen it done) I don't think I want to lie to the taxman. That sort of thing comes back when you least expect it.
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No joke.
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