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Since you enjoyed Dumb Bunny, I'm guessing that you also enjoyed Vampirella, did you, Cliff? I was surprised that Vampirella was created by the late Forest Ackerman who used to edit Famous Monsters magazine. After seeing the film "Queen of Blood," I was wondering if that movie inspired Forry to create Vamp because both of those characters are female-vampires who both come from another planet. Not only that but Forry himself even had a cameo-appearance in that film! Too many coincidences to not wonder if there's a connection.
Vampirella seems to have a cult following because I've seen convention coverage where an actress dressed as Vampirella appears at those cons,and con-goers are charged $50 or even more to just pose with her for a photograph. I wonder whether the same is done for Lady Rawhide or not, because Lady Rawhide is in a similar vein.
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Oddly I am completely unfamiliar with that character Orville. (Actually I did have a plastic build-it-yourself model of her, but I had no clue who she was)
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Now that you mention model-kits, Cliff, there is a kit that has tempted me. It's a kit based on the Claude Rains' Invisible Man. Actually, my obsession with that character began ages before I ever saw the movie. It was when I was still a toddler during the 1950s that I had to beg my parents to buy a comic magazine at Kress Store. It was a Classics Illustrated version of the Invisible Man. C-I (Gilberton) was a company which published graphic versions of all the classics such as Hamlet, etc. What caught my eye and made it irresistible as far as wonderment was the cover-painting depicting an invisible man with his hat and goggles floating in mid-air. Being a toddler at that time, I could not really read too much, so I just dwelled on the pictures, which were enough to enthrall me.

I had to wait about two decades later in the 1970s when the Claude Rains' adaptation was shown at a local library. When it rains, it pours, because around the same time, there premiered a television series of Invisible Man starring David McCallum. So it all began with the magazine I got as toddler.

The Invisible Man magazine was neither Marvel or DC, but during the 1970s,Marvel did an adaptation of the Invisible Man too, in their title, Supernatural Thrillers. I, of course, bought that one. How about you, Cliff? Did you ever get those Classics Illustrated? I also remember my parents getting a C-I issue of the classic "War of the Worlds" (the famous Martian invasion), but being just a toddler during the 1950s, it did not have any impact on me -- that is, until I heard the impactful Radio-broadcast of Orson Welles, which, as you know, caused a nation-wide panic.
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Sorry man, I missed those too. I loved the David McCallum series though. They actually made such a thing scientifically believable. Remember "Gemini Man?" Another Invisible man TV character from the 70's. Neither series lasted very long. Both were fun for different reasons.

I also remember that before Saturday Night Live came along, the thing to do late night on the weekend was watch the 1950's B-movies that were re-run on TV. Most were cheesy as hell, but always cool to talk about at school the next day.
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Sorry man, I missed those too. I loved the David McCallum series though. They actually made such a thing scientifically believable. Remember "Gemini Man?" Another Invisible man TV character from the 70's. Neither series lasted very long. Both were fun for different reasons.


Yes,I used to watch "Gemini Man" too. But to get back to Comics, there were quite a number of invisible heroes. Foremost among them was Thunder Agent Noman. In a sense,Thunder Agents was a concept which combined Superheroes with the tv series Man from Uncle. So besides Noman, there were some other super-agents such as Dynamo and Menthor. Oh,did you hear the announcement that a Thunder Agents movie is slated for 2018,Cliff?
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I had not heard that Orville, but I will look forward to it.

Spoiler alert.... Albeit a very very old spoiler.

I loved the scene in the Alec Baldwin movie "The Shadow," where the bad guy, realizing he can not see his enemy, breaks open a water pipe and floods the room. Now he knows where Lamont is and shoots him. That was very well done and very believable.

On the subject of invisible superheros, I loved in the Fantastic Four movie when Sue asks Reed how she can see when she is invisible. He says he does not know. I think any invisible superhero should be outfitted with a set of infrared goggles to wear. See by heat patterns rather than light. The shadow would need them though. He was never invisible, he just "Clouded men's minds."
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I had not heard that Orville, but I will look forward to it.

Spoiler alert.... Albeit a very very old spoiler.

I loved the scene in the Alec Baldwin movie "The Shadow," where the bad guy, realizing he can not see his enemy, breaks open a water pipe and floods the room. Now he knows where Lamont is and shoots him. That was very well done and very believable.

On the subject of invisible superheros, I loved in the Fantastic Four movie when Sue asks Reed how she can see when she is invisible. He says he does not know. I think any invisible superhero should be outfitted with a set of infrared goggles to wear. See by heat patterns rather than light. The shadow would need them though. He was never invisible, he just "Clouded men's minds."


That was a radio thing. I'm pretty certain the pulp character didn't do that, he was just "that good." (They did a Detective Comics where The Shadow stopped a robbery at a jewelry store Thomas Wayne is at with his son Bruce. Years later, the robber comes back to the store, now run down, and has to face Batman! With the Shadow in the background. (We also find out that not only doesn't Batman USE a gun, he's actually afraid of them!)
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He was never invisible, he just "Clouded men's minds."


The way I see it, Cliff, isn't "clouding men's minds" actually hypnotism?? Even Mandrake used hypnotism sometimes. And I've even heard it theorized that the Hindu Rising Rope was actually hypnotism. Also, Mandrake could use his hypnotism to make his foes see anything,e.g., turning an assailant's gun into a snake. In comparison, the Shadow uses his hypnotism for only invisibility. Isn't that self-limiting?

In Marvel Comics, an entertaining story using hypnotism was when Doctor Strange fought Dracula. It was shown that Dracula's hypnotism far surpasses Stephen's. It was only by using his astral projection to escape his own body that Stephen managed to escape Dracula's irresistible hypnosis. Dr. Strange can hypnotize too, but it's mostly dependent on the amulet's Eye of Agamotto. In fact, the Eye can even act on its own. Once when Stephen lay comatose, and an assassin was going to shoot him, the Eye acted of its own accord to mesmerize the would-be assailant. Anyway,I was wondering, Cliff, what you think about the Shadow's method, especially when compared with the way that Mandrake uses it.
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... Sue asks Reed how she can see when she is invisible. He says he does not know. I think any invisible superhero should be outfitted with a set of infrared goggles to wear. See by heat patterns rather than light. The shadow would need them though. He was never invisible, he just "Clouded men's minds."


You might like the villains in the comic book Planetary by Warren Ellis. Smile And the critters in the book Blindsight by Peter Watts. A. C. Clarke touched upon the notion of invisibility in his book Profiles of the Future - walking around the notion of functional invisibility by way of attention more than a few times along the way. Smile
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Now that we're early into 2017, I thought I'd recap some of the 2017 Superhero movie release dates that were mentioned in a link a few pages back:

Lego Batman Movie - Feb 10, 2017

Logan - March 3, 2017

Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2 - May 5, 2017

Wonder Woman - June 2, 2017

Spider-man: Homecoming - July 7, 2017

Thor: Ragnarok - Nov. 3, 2017

Justice League - Nov. 17, 2017


Which one are you looking forward to the most? Or does one of the upcoming TV series / Netflix series capture your interest more?

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It will be interesting to see Logan as it is Hugh Jackman's last movie.

Guardians absolutely is the one I anticipate most.
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I'm with Danny. I'll rank them as far as interest goes as:

1. Guardians of the Galaxy
2. Logan
3. Wonder Woman
4. Thor
5. Justice League
6. Spider-man
99. Lego Batman Movie
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That is also my list in order. Lego Batman seems amusing, but missing it won't make my radar.

For some reason Spider-Man has not captured my interest. Justice League I am holding out hope for. The other four actually have my interest. With Guardians being a long way in first.

As a matter if fact the last movies I personally anticipated this much was the last Guardians, Deadpool and Suicide Squad.
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The way I see it, Cliff, isn't "clouding men's minds" actually hypnotism? Even Mandrake used hypnotism sometimes. And I've even heard it theorized that the Hindu Rising Rope was actually hypnotism. Also, Mandrake could use his hypnotism to make his foes see anything,e.g., turning an assailant's gun into a snake. In comparison, the Shadow uses his hypnotism for only invisibility. Isn't that self-limiting?
Anyway,I was wondering, Cliff, what you think about the Shadow's method, especially when compared with the way that Mandrake uses it.


Indeed, Mandrake would use hypnotism as an illusion generator. This makes sense... In Las Vegas, some of the R and X rated Hypnotists get people to do things on stage they would never do in public. This is done via the illusion aspect of hypnosis. ie. You are in your bedroom getting ready for sleep... you begin to take off your clothes...

The Shadow was probably not hypnosis. For one thing it was all or nothing. When he activated his "clouding" power, no one could see him; not friend or foe. I think his power was a training to project a field of some kind that people would see what they expected to see and not him. Stephen King wrote in "Through Dragon's Eyes," that true invisibility was not possible, but there were spells that would make someone not want to look at you, and think you were not there.

The Kind of Hypnosis that Mandrake used is in my opinion far superior to the Shadow's clouding men's minds. But then, the Shadown only fought ordinary human criminals with guns and evil intentions.
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Now that you mention model-kits, Cliff, there is a kit that has tempted me. It's a kit based on the Claude Rains' Invisible Man. Actually, my obsession with that character began ages before I ever saw the movie. It was when I was still a toddler during the 1950s that I had to beg my parents to buy a comic magazine at Kress Store. It was a Classics Illustrated version of the Invisible Man. C-I (Gilberton) was a company which published graphic versions of all the classics such as Hamlet, etc. What caught my eye and made it irresistible as far as wonderment was the cover-painting depicting an invisible man with his hat and goggles floating in mid-air. Being a toddler at that time, I could not really read too much, so I just dwelled on the pictures, which were enough to enthrall me.


Orville, was it Classics Illustrated? https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=396741
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Anyone wanting to take a cool tour of memory lane, re-read the 19 pages that are this thread. It goes back to 2014 and covers an amazing amount of ground as the various TV shows and movies came out.
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1. Justice League
2. Thor
3. WonderWoman
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Not much lego Batman love here huh?
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