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Anyone on the Blackhawk movie question?
No love for Chop-Chop?
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Anyone on the Blackhawk movie question?
No love for Chop-Chop?

To answer your question, the only Blackhawk film I know of was the chapter-serial starring Kirk Alyn. Alyn also portrayed Superman in the movie-serials. Since you like Blackhawk, I presume you grew up during the 60s like I did. The Blackhawk villain that stands out for me was the one who was known for his so-called War-Wheel. It was a Giant Wheel that was also a rolling arsenal, if you can picture a Giant Wheel rolling by itself. Unless I'm mistaken, the villain sat in the Hub of the Giant Wheel.

During that time, there was another DC group like Blackhawk which was called Challengers of the Unknown. My favorite issue of that series was the one that did a cross-over with the DOOM PATROL. Remember that series?

As far as that Frenchie you mentioned in another post, Marvel's Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commandoes also had a Frenchie. Seems that Marvel stole that idea from DC's Blackhawk, as Blackhawk began way back in the 1950s. Marvel tends to copycat, the worst copycat being Quicksilver which Marvel stole from DC's The Flash.
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So is Jhon J'onzz still around and is he still green? I think I once picked up a comic where he had turned a different color and I figured this whole comic world was becoming too complicated for me.

I don't know about the color-change that you mentioned. To me, the Martian Manhunter always had green skin. But there are some Martians who have white skin, as Mars has more than one ethnicity. A notorious example is the villain,Commander Blanx, who caused the whole Justice League to become involved.
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Well I did a little googling here. I remember him as this guy:

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But then I ran across this:

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I dunno. He seemed different. I guess it's really his costume and a bit of skin tone change. He always seemed like a filler guy, but he was more interesting than Superman to me because fire seemed like something more available to your average villain, and hence made the superhero less invulnerable seeming.
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He has become much more prominent lately.
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Well I did a little googling here. I remember him as this guy:

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But then I ran across this:

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I dunno. He seemed different. I guess it's really his costume and a bit of skin tone change. He always seemed like a filler guy, but he was more interesting than Superman to me because fire seemed like something more available to your average villain, and hence made the superhero less invulnerable seeming.

Another "weakness" of the Martian J'onzz (that is usually forgotten) is that (UNlike Superman) he can Not fly through the void of outer space. To travel to Mars, he has to use a spaceship or a teleportational device.
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Not to mention matches.
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"Here's Why Marvel Is Still Beating DC In The Comic Book Movie Wars"

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Here-Why-......974.html

"With Marvel, you get the sense that both the creative talent and executives care deeply about the source material and delivering projects that will please fans and movie-lovers alike. With DC, more specifically Warner Bros., it’s as if digging into their gigantic library is a chore, and the only reason they’re making these movies is to turn a profit. Warner Bros. also doesn’t seem to embrace DC Entertainment as an independent entity, which restricts their creative endeavors. "
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Not to mention matches.

Now that you mention it, I remember (in a 1960s issue) the Martian's horror when a bystander began smoking a Cigarette. When you think about it, cigarette use is so commonplace that you can find somebody smoking a cig on practically every city-block, usually several people at a time. So it's a wonder that J'onzz can survive.

Nowadays many restaurants don't allow any smoking on their premises, so at least that's someplace where J'onzz is safe.
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I remember a story in which the secret identities became separate from the heroes. After freaking out because all of his special Martian powers were gone (he was screaming "I'm blind!" although he could see perfectly well, but only in the visible spectrum) John Jones sits in his room lighting matches and staring into the flame... simply because he can. (In case you're wondering, Eel O'Brian, the wheelman who became Plastic Man, has to get everyone back with their respective "hero" identities because they're all beginning go lose it.
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Several years ago, DC was trying to make J'onzz similar to Mr. Spock as far as his emotional Coldness. When Green Arrow asked J'onzz if he has emotions, J'onzz replied that he has them but that he suppresses them. Then when asked if he ever visited the planet Vulcan, and J'onzz said "No," Green Arrow remarked,"If you go there, you would feel right at home."

The last time I've seen him, J'onzz still seemed emotionally Cold, especially because nowadays his facial features are different in that his forehead and brow are so prominent that his eyeballs can Not be seen. Instead,his eyes look like dark empty sockets which make him appear Cold and distant. Quite a change from how he used to appear during the 1960s.
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That's it Orville, the eyes. That's the big difference. I knew it was something.
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I also thought that the green hornet movie and the shadow movie that came out a few years ago - both were not very good.

However I liked the Phantom movie.
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Way to keep up with the discussion.
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Over 30 superhero movies will be released in the next 6 years – here’s every single one

https://bgr.com/2014/11/17/every-superhe......gh-2020/
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Over 30 superhero movies will be released in the next 6 years – here’s every single one

https://bgr.com/2014/11/17/every-superhe......gh-2020/

EXHILARATING news, thanks for the update. You made my day!! The entire movie industry realizes that Superheroes are the Biggest moneymaker. So Superheroes are here to stay.
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You know, when I was a kid, I loved two things. Comic books and movies. I dreamed of movies made of my favorite super heroes, The Fantastic Four, Spider Man, The X-Men. But I realized that they just didn't have the ability to capture these heroes powers and abilities realistically. I am now supremely happy that I'm living in an age where the dreams of my childhood have come true.
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Super hero movies used to be made for the kids. As well as the writing of comic books. It was for the kids. However it was a long time coming - making super hero movies for adults.
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Super hero movies used to be made for the kids. As well as the writing of comic books. It was for the kids. However it was a long time coming - making super hero movies for adults.

Even back during the 1960s, the series,The Elongated Man, had an adult flavor. That was because writer Gardner Fox had adapted the married couple of Ralph and Sue Dibny from the old 1930s movies of the Thin Man which was, in turn, adapted from the novel by the famous Dashiell Hammett. The basic idea (as in the Thin Man) was that both Ralph and Sue were a globe-trotting millionaire couple who solve criminal mysteries as a hobby. Big difference is Ralph Dibny has the bizarre superpower of Elasticity, being a literal human rubber-band. For example, in one story, Dibny wants to scrutinize something closely but has forgotten his magnifying glass, so he enlarges his own Eye-ball, enlarges his eye to the shape and size of a baseball. That way,presumably, his eyeball can see in magnification. I remember how much I was taken aback when I saw that, as it was so visually bizarre to see an eyeball that huge, especially when compared with his opposite eyeball which remained normal-sized.
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