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Tommy, thanks for the Steranko link. Dude is awesome. Tore up how superheros were portrayed and reinvented the comic medium with his background in graphic arts. A true innovator.

And knows a thing or two about this magic thing too.
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Inhumans looks pretty cool and some great actors. Look forward to seeing Ramsay Bolton play the evil Maximus. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint like Agents of Shield has.

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I kind of like "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." I've watched all 4 seasons, and I'm looking forward to season 5.

I really liked how it meshed with the story line of "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" in the first season. If you were watching the TV show, and also saw the movie on opening weekend, everything fit nicely.

And I thought this past season (season 4) was interesting. Personally, of the Ghost Rider, LMD, and Agents of Hydra story lines, the Agents of Hydra story line was my favorite.

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The only time I watched Agents of Shield were the episodes featuring The Ghost Rider. What disappointed and even upset me was the Ghost Rider's utter ruthlessness. Because the Ghost Rider killed an innocent gang member. The gang member in the jail cell was just another member of the same gang that had the murderer, and yet Ghost Rider incinerated him as well. Apparently the Ghost Rider believes in guilt by association. But any way you look at it, that man was innocent. So I find it very disturbing.
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New Thor trailer.



Thor Ragnarok is being directed by Taika Waititi, who has a great sense of humor. If you've seen a few of his other movies, such as "Hunt for the Wilderpeople" or "What we do in the Darkness", you'll have gotten a taste of his humor.

I'm curious to see how much of this trailer is actually from the movie and how much was simply filmed for the trailer.
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Now that Rockwall mentioned trailers, it makes me think how watching a trailer can sometimes spoil the subsequent viewing of the movie itself. For example, when the Avengers trailer included Spiderman, it made me think how the movie would have been much more of a treat if Spiderman's appearance had been a total surprise. In fact,in most trailers, they show all of the most exciting scenes already. Problem is that it's almost impossible to avoid seeing those trailers because they appear in TV commercials so suddenly that as soon as they appear,it's impossible to resist.
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In this day and age you won't keep secrets about a Spiderman appearance in a movie. Why not show it to attract more people?

I never watch trailers, except in the movies. I never click on them, I don't go to fan sites, I don't even watch much live TV so I never see them when they are there.
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I know what you mean about trailers spoiling the movie. It's done it to more than one for me but that hasn't stopped me from watching them!

However, I was very happy with the trailer to Guardians 2 after seeing the movie. I would say that 90% of the trailer was covered in the first 10 minutes of the movie and so spoiled very little of the surprises to come.

I get the feeling that it could be the same with Thor Ragnarok.
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Guardians 2 flat out rocked.
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I get the feeling that it could be the same with Thor Ragnarok.


There are now 2 trailers for "Thor: Ragnarok", and they are quite different. In some ways, it appears as though one tips the plot of the first half of the movie, and the other tips the plot of the second half of the movie. But I hope I'm wrong.

There was a "bogus" trailer released for "Spider-man: Homecoming" that featured DJ Khaled (and other celebrities) & Spider-man bringing snacks to Tony Stark's NBA Finals party. None of that was in the theatrical release of the movie at all. I'm guessing it will be a bonus on the DVD / Blu-Ray when those are released. They were released as a series of commercials, and as a longer cut version. I think that Robert Downey Jr. debuted that trailer on his media (Facebook page, etc.) -- that's where I saw it first, before I saw it elsewhere. This page has the longer cut of that trailer.

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/06/10/s......ded-cut/

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I have a friend who works for Sega designing pinball machines. (I KNOW coolest job ever right?!)

When they did Batman Forever they had a preview of the script and worked from that. There was a scene where Chase was on the couch and the Riddler drugged her and so forth. It went on WAY longer than in the final movie. It was l on the machine, but not in the movie so they had to vet quickly change that!
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Ugh. I just read that the Flash will be adding the elongated man to the team. Don't get me wrong, I like the elongated man, but my problem is the stretching effects. In the movies, Marvel did an OK job with Reed Richards' stretching ability, but mostly it looked cartoonish. That was on a cgi movie budget. I am afraid to think how it will look on TV. I hope they make it work.

Many people think that the Flash has gotten too dark. Maybe so. E.M. could lighten things up.
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It is amazing the difference an hour makes between the Flash and Arrow in dark quality of the show.
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Actually, Marvel has never done Reed Richards stretching ability. FF is owned by Fox.
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It is amazing the difference an hour makes between the Flash and Arrow in dark quality of the show.


You're right, the shows definitely have a different tone.

I saw an interview with some of the writers / producers of Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, and DC Legends of Tomorrow at some time, and they defined Arrow as a gritty crime drama show, whereas they defined The Flash as an action-adventure show.

BTW, in Fall 2016, all 4 of the CW shows were in the same time slot (8-9pm), but just on different nights. It will be different in Fall 2017.

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Good point by Rockwall that the Guardians #2 trailer did not spoil the movie. It shows that spoiler-free trailers can be done.

Another way is that there are both long trailers as well as short trailers. So it would help avoid spoilers if one looks at the short ones.
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Actually, Marvel has never done Reed Richards stretching ability. FF is owned by Fox.


I thought they get theose charectors back. I am so out of the loop.
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Actually, Marvel has never done Reed Richards stretching ability. FF is owned by Fox.


I thought they get theose charectors back. I am so out of the loop.


Nope but the rumors persist and hope springs eternal.

Personally, I think anyone trying to do Mr Fantastic is going to have a tough time of it.
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Certainly a very pleasant surprise from Cliff's announcement because I'm a very avid fan of the Elongated Man. What's really ironic is that the first time I ran across Dibny, it did not appeal to
me at all. Because at that time I used to like only The Flash and the X-Men.

Then one day at school during the 1960's, a classmate brought an issue of Detective Comics into the classroom during recess time. It was on the other side of the room where the classmate was showing his friend that issue,so I was eavesdropping on their conversation. He had bought Detective Comics just for Batman only, but when his friend turned to the secondary story with the Elongated Man,I remember him getting awestruck because it was the first time he saw such a bizarre character! Judging from his reaction, I got the impression that he was more impressed with the Elongated Man than with Superman. So that got me interested in the Elongated Man.

But what really clinched it for me and made EM one of my favorites was when I got a paperback book on True-life Sideshow freaks. Included among all those Sideshow anomalies was a human oddity called the Elastic Skin Man. He could pull and stretch out the skin of his facial-cheeks 8 inches and could stretch his chest-skin all the way over his mouth. I still remember how excited I got that abnormal elasticity exists in real life! So that was the final clincher, and I got hooked with the Elongated Man.
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