

Caleb Wiles Inner circle Indianapolis, IN 1130 Posts 
Can someone please explain the effect to me?
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6322 Posts 
You can also find a version of it in Stunners. Basically, the audience makes up a large six digit number, and you show that you had several numbers from the beginning that totaled the audience's numbers.
I did a version of it in my show. Greg
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espresto New user 78 Posts 
Greg, I am curious. Did you perform the effect according to Stunners Plus, or did you perform it according to Becker's Standing Ovation Video? It's the same methodology but slightly different in execution.

chappy Special user 709 Posts 
I use a presentation that combines this basic idea with several other principles that create a really startling moment for the participant when the prediction is revealed. I've shared the presentation with several performers including Banachek and Greg Arce here at the Café. This is a clever principle, and creating a worthy presentation, as is often the case, is the difficult part.
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evolve629 Inner circle A stack of 3838 Posts 
I am trying to figure out what number to put in when the spec calls a zero. If the magician always substracts 1 number from the spec. number, than what is a zero minus one? I tried 9 but the Radio Sum Total does not add up. Please help.
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts 
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You can say that zero is not really a number, but an abstract, and ask for another number, a tangible number between 1 and 9. Tony 
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On 20040131 03:10, espresto wrote: Greg performed HIS VERSION of Sum Total (AWESOME TOTAL) which is different from the other two versions and, if truth has to be told, with his version Greg has even fried magicians! You can find his AWESOME TOTAL routine in his SIMPLE MINDED book. You can check at: http://www.freestylebooktest.com/cashout
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evolve629 Inner circle A stack of 3838 Posts 
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On 20060319 18:00, TonyEye wrote: Thanks alot, TonyEye. I very much appreciated your help!
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equivoque Special user 707 Posts 
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On 20060319 18:00, TonyEye wrote: Hi all, I am not familiar with the "radio" version. But I have performed this effect at least 10 times over the years with audiences ranging in size from 25 to 175 and I have never had trouble calling for the numbers as Larry suggests. Would I do this effect for 5 or 10 people? No. Is thsi a great straight forward effect? YES! 
Bill Fienning Special user 635 Posts 
I would prefer to use the psychology cited in the other listing of this same topic to avoid the zero problem, rather that saying that zero is not a number. That is, emphasizing the acceptable digits, 1,2,3,...9. (Zero is definitely a number.)
Saying that zero is not a number might cause a problem with mathematicians in the audience. They will cite the Peano Postulates that are the theoretical generators for the integers: 0,1,2,3,4,... etc. It is better to avoid such a distraction if you can.
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Magic.J.Manuel Special user I have danced upon 665 Posts 
Zero is not a positive number.
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5808 Posts 
If you fixate on zero, your audience will too. In this routine if you have to tell someone to pick another number, and they are the least bit analytical, they will rightly guess what you are up to.

Steve Knight Elite user Oxford U.K. 476 Posts 
Depending on the presentation you could have your audience call out the month they were born in instead of digits, then use January = 1, Feb = 2 etc. That way you avoid any zeros and of course you don't need to stipulate ahead of time how many you'll be asking for!

carbone1853 Loyal user RI USA 240 Posts 
Um... what about October?
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bitterman Inner circle 1189 Posts 
You might be overthinking things. Just say, 'give me a number between 1 and 9' and move on. It shouldn't be a problem unless you make it a problem.
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Jay Are Inner circle 4188 Posts 
I ama firm believer in the old addage, "don't run if your not being chased". I try to use thi in all my material. I think this is applicable here, I agree, we are over thinking this.
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Steve Knight Elite user Oxford U.K. 476 Posts 
Chris, I did forget about that rather prominent zero in October! Doubtless there are ways to handle it cleanly depending on which months have already been called but it some situations in could be tricky.

MOJave New user 95 Posts 
Although I have a mathematics degree, I cannot be bothered to check if this works as I havent performed it for some time. However, if they call out zero, I think you can put down a 9 and then subtract two from the next number rather than 1. It makes sense in my head, don't know if it works on paper.
Test it and let me know if I'm right, or if I have 10 mins to procrastinate over then I might do it myself Hope it works for you. Ohh and if they call out zero for the last number then you are screwed . Honestly though however if you say name a number betweeen one and ten and they say zero, you have a pretty good joke to make (without making them feel stupid) and then say try again. Christopher Bisset
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