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God Bless America and those people and families that lost loved ones in this horrific attack. My heart and prayers goes out to all who were directly effected by this act of terror.

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+1 Yes indeed.
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Thanks to all who help me remember this horrible day, and let us never rest on our laurels. This must never happen again.
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You can hear extraordinary first person eyewitness accounts on WBAI.org right now. Very moving story of a man who carried a woman down on his shoulder many flights of stairs.
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Rest in Peace to all the victims... Smile
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You can hear extraordinary first person eyewitness accounts on WBAI.org right now. Very moving story of a man who carried a woman down on his shoulder many flights of stairs.


Remarkable the courage some had during this. Instincts kicked in and understood what they had to do.
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You can hear extraordinary first person eyewitness accounts on WBAI.org right now. Very moving story of a man who carried a woman down on his shoulder many flights of stairs.


You can hear the archived program of this morning's broadcast here:
http://www.wbai.org/server-archive.html Scroll to Turn it Up, Tecla! for today and hit "Play."
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I was in Las Vegas at Circus Circus during 911. Vegas became a ghost town after a few days. All rental cars were gone. All bus lines were full, and people were buying cheap cars to get home.
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As 9/11 survivors in NYC, with many tragic as well as miraculous stories and experiences to share, my wife Leslie and I will newer forget. Our lives, as well as millions of others, were affected forever, and to this day we are still dealing with the consequences of the attacks.
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Let's also remember the second 9/11 and the 4 Americans that lost their lives.
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I feel the same as all of you ... and I have one question to ask ...After 13 years is it too early to ask "HOW" this was allowed to happen?
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Sure. The evidence was presented to the President in the summer of that year and he said, "Fine, you covered your a***s" and then he promptly forgot about it and went back to his pre-9/11 Iraq invasion plans with Cheney and the other neo-cons.
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Sure. The evidence was presented to the President in the summer of that year and he said, "Fine, you covered your a***s" and then he promptly forgot about it and went back to his pre-9/11 Iraq invasion plans with Cheney and the other neo-cons.


And you can guarantee that if this was Obama instead of Bush, this would be HUGE!!! Republican heads would explode!!! Yet over 2,900 people died on American soil and Bush gets a pass on what he knew and when. Meanwhile, 4 people die in Benghazi and not only is it covered relentlessly and vigorously by Fox and the dittoheads, but it's also cause for Obama's impeachment! Fair and balanced... right.

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4 people dying in Benghazi isn't a valid reason for impeachment.

Lying about the circumstances to protect the election shortly after...

Of course, that's no story at all for mainstream media. And Lois Lerner is just really unlucky when it comes to computers.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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God Bless America and all the innocent people. All those innocent people, who died and suffered and all those who are still or about to, as a result of those events of that day which we call 9/11.
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4 people dying in Benghazi isn't a valid reason for impeachment.

Lying about the circumstances to protect the election shortly after...

Of course, that's no story at all for mainstream media. And Lois Lerner is just really unlucky when it comes to computers.



That never happened, according to five Republican led investigations...but even if it had happened, would you compare lying on a Sunday talk show to lying before the UN? What do you suppose a "High Crime or Misdemeanor" means?

This is what the Republican-led House Committee on Intelligence found in its hearing on Benghazi:

"This report shows that there was no intelligence failure surrounding the Benghazi attacks that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other brave Americans. Our investigation found the Intelligence Community warned about an increased threat environment, but did not have specific tactical warning of an attack before it happened, Americans which is consistent with testimony that the attacks appeared to be opportunistic. It also found that a mixed group of individuals including those associated with Al-Qaeda, Qadafi loyalists and other Libyan militias participated in the attack. Additionally, the report shows there was no "stand down order" given to American personnel attempting to offer assistance that evening, and no American was left behind.

"The report also shows that the process used to develop the talking points was flawed, but that the talking points reflected the conflicting intelligence assessments in the days immediately following the crisis. Finally, the report demonstrates that there was no illegal activity or illegal arms sales occurring at U.S. facilities in Benghazi. And there was absolutely no evidence, in documents or testimony, that the Intelligence Community's assessments were politically motivated in any way."
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Well... it was a nice thread while it lasted.
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4 people dying in Benghazi isn't a valid reason for impeachment.

Lying about the circumstances to protect the election shortly after...

Of course, that's no story at all for mainstream media. And Lois Lerner is just really unlucky when it comes to computers.



That never happened, according to five Republican led investigations...but even if it had happened, would you compare lying on a Sunday talk show to lying before the UN? What do you suppose a "High Crime or Misdemeanor" means?

This is what the Republican-led House Committee on Intelligence found in its hearing on Benghazi:

"This report shows that there was no intelligence failure surrounding the Benghazi attacks that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other brave Americans. Our investigation found the Intelligence Community warned about an increased threat environment, but did not have specific tactical warning of an attack before it happened, Americans which is consistent with testimony that the attacks appeared to be opportunistic. It also found that a mixed group of individuals including those associated with Al-Qaeda, Qadafi loyalists and other Libyan militias participated in the attack. Additionally, the report shows there was no "stand down order" given to American personnel attempting to offer assistance that evening, and no American was left behind.

"The report also shows that the process used to develop the talking points was flawed, but that the talking points reflected the conflicting intelligence assessments in the days immediately following the crisis. Finally, the report demonstrates that there was no illegal activity or illegal arms sales occurring at U.S. facilities in Benghazi. And there was absolutely no evidence, in documents or testimony, that the Intelligence Community's assessments were politically motivated in any way."


I've read the U.S. senate Subcommittee report on its entirety. It's not quite the unanimous vindication that you suggest. For instance:


"The obstruction faced by the Committee during its review is epitomized by the months-long saga involving the CIA's Benghazi talking points. In the immediate aftermath of September 11th, the Committee began asking the IC who was likely responsible for the attacks and what the intelligence was indicating. At the same time, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence requested unclassified talking points from the CIA that could be used by Members in responding to press inquiries. Rather than simply provide Congress with the best intelligence and on-the-ground assessments, the Administration chose to try to frame the story in a way that minimized any connection to terrorism. Before the Benghazi attacks-in the lead-up to the 2012 presidential election, the Administration had continued to script the narrative that al-Qa'ida had been decimated and was on the run. The Benghazi terrorist attacks inconveniently, and overwhelmingly, interfered with this fictitious and politically-motivated storyline. Thus, the story as told through the talking points and repeated on the Sunday talk shows became one of a protest or demonstration gone awry, rather than an act of terrorism against the United States by individ11als with ties to al-Qa'ida. Until the forthright testimony of the Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, no one in the Administration-from the
on down-had publicly called Benghazi the terrorist attack it clearly was."
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Cut & paste glitch (it was from a PDF). Last line should be "...-from the President on down-..."
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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On Sep 11, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:
Sure. The evidence was presented to the President in the summer of that year and he said, "Fine, you covered your a***s" and then he promptly forgot about it and went back to his pre-9/11 Iraq invasion plans with Cheney and the other neo-cons.


And you can guarantee that if this was Obama instead of Bush, this would be HUGE!!! Republican heads would explode!!! Yet over 2,900 people died on American soil and Bush gets a pass on what he knew and when. Meanwhile, 4 people die in Benghazi and not only is it covered relentlessly and vigorously by Fox and the dittoheads, but it's also cause for Obama's impeachment! Fair and balanced... right.

Ron


Give me some sort of plan that Bush or any President could have implemented to prevent 9/11. That is the Hijacking of the planes and using them as terrorist weapons. Because I am sure the current President and any future President would love to have those plans.
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