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jmsilhy
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Hi everyone, I know this has been discussed before and even I asked a question in the beginners forum, but this is a little different from the "what tricks you do" question, this is more about handling. I need a good source for handling it, when to wear it, when to palm it.

I've had a blast using it for a few tricks I know, like disappearing silk, burned and restored napkin, sugar to diet sustitute, etc. but I think the 101 tricks booklet is not enough.

I read on a web page you should get two TT and paint one red so when you practice in front of a mirror you won't flash it. Isn't the point of the TT NOT having to hide anything? I've done tricks in the faces of my friends where I point the TT right to their faces and since I'm misdirecting the attention to someplace else, they never see it.

So how do you hide it when it's on? Behind the hand? Between fingers? Doesn't this look unnatural to you? Please any advice and suggestions are welcome.
Karl Miller
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Check out Jay Scott Berry's TT work on his DVD "Total Eclipse". Jay, in my opinion, is the best handler of a TT I have ever seen. He has an improved TT called the Eclipse Tip that can be used like a Dye Tube and many other things. I now only use Eclipse Tips unless woking with liquids. Denny and Lee's has all of this on their site.
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The thing that makes the TT so diabolical is that nobody is suspecting it. I'm always amazed by the stuff I can get away with right under spectators' noses.

Keep your thumb pointed at them and you're fine. If you have to move to more oblique angles then just keep your hand moving. Never underestimate the desire of your specs to be fooled. Misdirection is the key, as always.
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Go to order Salvano's Lecture video from international magic in UK. He gives details information on advance TT handling.
DAK
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Yes Salvano's lecture is excellent, he has a fluroescent yellow TT! He says (and I agree) that, the TT should never be seen, his handling is excellent. If you want to do great TT work, learn from him.

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Dominic
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As mentioned earlier, if you keep the TT pointing at our audience, it won't be noticed. I do this all the time and it works great. Also think of magnets.
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With regards to the TT. I personally feel it is not a matter of it's seen but more is it noticed!

By it's very nature a TT is designed to be invisible to a certain extent that is why it is designed to look like a T. I think that hiding it throughout a routine is wasting a valuable part of the TT.

Sure it will not stand up as your T's double if held up in front of someone but casual flashes of the TT in the right way can work to your advantage.

Try pointing the TT directly at your audience. Also work on your deposit and steal of the TT. Remember it is probably the last thing your audience is expecting so even if they do get a casual flash they will just take it for what it is supposed to be, "Don't run if nobody is chasing".

On loading, why not load the TT as you grab the prop you are going to vanish. This works in reverse, ditch the TT when you put away the object that was produced.
Just a few, non specific thoughts.
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The Magic of Micheal Ammar book has a section on TT Finesse and different handlings of it.

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tglund
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Duane Laflin has a video that goes over many TT handling issues. It can be found at:

http://www.laflinmagic.com/cgi-bin/web_s......match=on
jmsilhy
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Thanks to all for the replies... Yogibear: magnets??? can you be a little more specific on this? Thanks!
Partizan
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I have performed TT in front of a friend who also uses one. He just thought I had a plaster on my thumb.
After the trick he said. Where did your plaster go?
I was thinking, “What is he talking about?”, while looking at my hands for some clue.
He grabs my right mitt and looks close, then says, I could swear you had a plaster on your thumb. I just smiled an internal kind of smile and vowed to get a better skin colour match.
I have been so blatant in my use of the TT and never have I been turned over, yet)!
I have even dropped it, picked it up, then continued with the magic.
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Bill Palmer
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I learned to handle a TT from Cal Emmett. He performed with a metal one with no paint on it, and fooled the pants off everyone. Nobody ever has to see it if you handle it right.

The main things are to move naturally and not to be self-conscious about it.
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Harry Murphy
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I just love the recommendations of pointing the TT directly at your spectator and it will be invisible. Yep, invisible to that one spectator! I work pretty much in the round most of the time (or at least with audiences to the front and sides – more than 180 degrees of audience coverage). What spectator do I point at that will make it invisible to the rest of the audience?

I use a TT regularly for a number of pet tricks. Bill Palmer gives you the real key “move naturally and not to be self-conscious about it.” To learn to not be self-conscious simply put on your favorite TT each morning as you head out and wear it all day. Your goal is to go about your daily routine with it on and to have it NOT noticed. You will find that on average no one notices it! You will learn to hide it in plain sight. I have even shaken a persons hand in greeting wearing a TT and it went entirely unnoticed. We made eye contact and he did not look at the hands.

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peter teagle
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Harry,

Trying to make the d'lite TT look natural seems difficult. It doesn't feel normal because of the gimmick. The thumb looks and feels twice as long!! I realize the effect is done in subdued lighting but even so the TT feels awkward! How can I get use to handling one on each thumb more naturally? Is there any way to make it softer?

peter
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One of the places I would like to use a TT is when sitting at a restaurant table, for 4 persons - me, my wife, and another couple. Any special considerations? I can point the thumb at the couple opposite me, but not my wife (who wouldn't tell, anyway, of course Smile
By the way, the 25 Amazing TT DVD says there are times to hide the thumb, simply when you wouldn't want to have a subsequent thumb motion be noticed. (I am probably not doing justice to the explanation.)
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rikbrooks
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Handmadeinwales, The D'lite TT doesn't have to look realistic. The effect that you are seeking is that of holding a lite, not an effect of having your thumb glow like a beacon. If you think of it that way then the extra length makes sense.

If you are talking about when your hand is open, I keep my thumb curled towards the palm. The only time that you are in danger is when your thumb is close to the fore finger and they realize that your thumb is almost as lont as the forefinger - so keep the thumb away from the forefinger when your hand is open. Keep it close to the palm.
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I would suggest Tom Gagnon's booklet "Sleightly Original" (July, 1981).

Tom's handling offer's a different angle on the use and applications of the TT.



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jsmagus
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Losander's Magic Anytime...Anywhere vid has excellent TT work in it. He goes into some tips and details that are very valuble. But, as I recall he said on the vid that he learned his TT work from Salvano, I'd say go straight to the source!
rikbrooks
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I'm wondering, is there any demo or presentation (not instructional) of the TT on the net? I haven't found one. I'd like to see what others are doing with the device other than the lit cig, salt, and scarves.
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The BRAND of TT make a LOT of difference in it's invisibility. My two favorites are:

Vernet (I have two, a jumbo and a regular)
The one that came with the D'Lite Deluxe Set

The D'Lite one (without the D'Lite mechanism) is the most invisible on my hand. It matches my skin color EXACTLY. The Vernet is nice, but you can't point your thumb at the audience if you use a blue or green silk. I CAN do that with the one made by the D'Lite people.

The Flip Tip is made by those same people, and I was wondering...is that the same as the Eclipse Tip? Same material? I've never been partial to the Flip Tip...

The Vernet Jumbo can hold a 15" silk, and using a red silk, you CAN point the thumb right at the audience. That size silk coming out of your hand is UNCANNY!

Regards!

Doug
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