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LoveKey1988 Elite user 443 Posts |
So...you are doing an effect which depends on you controlling a card. Suddenly you realize you lost control of the card and the cards is lost in the deck.
How do you recover? Do you change it to a different effect? And if so..what effect? |
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Kabbalah Inner circle 1621 Posts |
"Long may magicians fascinate and continue to be fascinated by the mystery potential in a pack of cards."
~Cliff Green "The greatest tricks ever performed are not done at all. The audience simply think they see them." ~ John Northern Hilliard |
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Andy Young Special user Jersey Shore, PA 813 Posts |
Well if you had forced a card then you know how to get out of it.
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george1953 Inner circle Mallorca (Spain) 5943 Posts |
Always try to get a glimpse of the selected card before you control it. That way if your control goes wrong you still know what the selected card was.
By failing to prepare, we are preparing to fail.
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Atom3339 Inner circle Spokane, WA 3242 Posts |
IMO, sometimes you DON'T recover! You just laugh it off and go on to something else.
TH
Occupy Your Dream |
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jeebs9 Regular user 190 Posts |
Here are a few outs I do from time to time. I used these outs when I started a few months ago.
1. If I lose the card. I go through the cards and find their card (asking them which one it was). And then do Excessive force (Paul Harris I think). I use patter like "Only you can find your card" or "I messed up, pick another card. I'm still working on that trick". I learn Excessive Force by accident one night. I was drinking and someone asked me to do a trick. I messed up. But for some reason the spec kept picking the same card over and over and over again haha. Everyone there thought it was amazing.... Even I did! 2. If you have an ID on you. You can always use that as out for any card trick. I used it a lot when I first started. "I have this other deck here. With one card flipped over.". And makes sure they have the ID in their hands when they tell you their card. |
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Mike Powers Inner circle Midwest 2983 Posts |
I agree that an ID is a great way out of a screw up. When there's no way out and it's clear that you did screw up, Eugene Burger has a great line: Well, it's back to the drawing board with that one!
It's a wonderful way to laugh off the screw up and just move on. Mike
Mike Powers
http://www.mallofmagic.com |
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Isaach Regular user 102 Posts |
I just place a random card into their hands and build it up as if it is their card. Then I say "before you turn it over, what was your card?" They tell me and I go through the cards and cull theirs to the bottom. I then show them the face up spread saying "do you see your card?" They don't because it is concealed under the spread. I don't actually say that their card is in their hands but they assume as such. Then they turn over the in deferent card in their hands and there is a moment of relaxation where I can do a top change and place it back into their hands for them to eventually they look at it and see that it has turned into their card in their hands. Either that or a place in on top of the beck and to a shake change.
Isaac Haber - Boston
youtube.com/irhaber twitter.com/isaac_haber instagram.com/isaac_haber No great artist ever sees things as they really are. If he did, he would cease to be an artist. —Oscar Wilde |
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Thehedge New user 43 Posts |
Have them name the card, "ha ha really, funny, no really. What was your card?" They repeat. "you must be mistaken are you sure?" start looking through the cards (cull card to the top). "I thought I took that card out." (palm card to pocket) "see, I still have it in my pocket." All good.
Cme up with this on the fly one night (I was a proud teenager that night, but I am sure there are others who have done this). Now it always keep this in my pocket (pun intended).
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle
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shaunluttin Special user 759 Posts |
For a good example, Mat Franco did a perfect recovery job in the Ambitious Card at America's Got Talent.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......c=565344 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbgFeG3ck8g He's a real professional. Here is a 29-minute live performance of mine: https://youtu.be/lq2Rj1uf05M I used to be quite sensitive to criticism; I am much less so now; so, please do criticize my technique, presentation, and posts. It helps me to grow, and I promise to take responsibility and not to be defensive. |
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Isaach Regular user 102 Posts |
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On Sep 20, 2014, shaunluttin wrote: that's really funny because I had already seen that video and I didn't realize that he messed up. I just assumed that he routined his ACR really weirdly Not only was he unfazed by the slip up but he even covered for it by saying "you saw that I switched it."
Isaac Haber - Boston
youtube.com/irhaber twitter.com/isaac_haber instagram.com/isaac_haber No great artist ever sees things as they really are. If he did, he would cease to be an artist. —Oscar Wilde |
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
That was a recovery? Had no idea. That's an impressive display of courage and poise under fire, for sure. Still not sure exactly what happened there, but Franco smoothed it over very convincingly.
Now appearing nightly in my basement.
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pepka Inner circle Uh, I'm the one on the right. 5041 Posts |
I normally get them to name the card and say "No...that couldn't have been it!" I then cull it and produce from my pocket or wallet.
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GodOfCards New user 63 Posts |
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On Sep 19, 2014, LoveKey1988 wrote: Punch them in the face and walk off. |
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SamCase New user 3 Posts |
As a recovery, I dealt 25 cards in a 5 by 5 pattern.
Is your card there? No. Push aside, deal another 25. Yes this time. "Here, lightly hold my wrist and visualize me touching your card." Contact mind reading. First time I'd ever attempted it. I had nothing to lose. It worked. I was more surprised than anybody! Sam |
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Alex Day Regular user 155 Posts |
If it's point of no return I say" let me redeem my self and do a wicked card trick after.
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
Outs are great. I use outs from time to time when I have the need. My outs work the best if I make tem part of the routine like it was suppose to happen. I just spread the deck face up - spot their card - then cull it then palm and stick it on my forehead or under their drink. It can become a running gag.
Often if I produced a card and if it was not it. I would put that card under the glass. Or I spread the deck face up and then I turned around so I could not see the card and I would have them remove it again. "That's your card ok I am turning around don't let me see it" The card is placed back into the deck and I pass it to the top. I hit a double and show it not on the top and then show it not on the bottom. Then I take their card off the top and do a Mexican turnover with the card on the table and produce their card as if it was right there on the table to begin with all the time. Outs are good if you make them part of the show so the audience will forget or not notice a mistake if something went wrong. I hope this helps.
Glenn Bishop Cardician
Producer of the DVD Punch Deal Pro Publisher of Glenn Bishop's Ace Cutting And Block Transfer Triumphs |
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Terrible Wizard Inner circle 1973 Posts |
Very interesting topic!
I often use a M***ked Deck to provide a continual safety net, but I like some of the ideas above (as obviously you may not be using your own deck). |
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frankie5aces New user Nowhere 77 Posts |
I do the exact same thing as Isaac . but instead of a top change. I take the indifferent card and say... Hmm.. This means something.. Or.. I say. Its talking to me. Its telling me to check under the card box.. Or some other impossible location which I loaded in the offbeat .
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Tism New user 7 Posts |
Something I read fairly recently was about a Dai Vernon performance in which he failed to locate the spectators card. Instead of concluding the trick via an out he took the opportunity to get a laugh out of the audience. So identifying what type of situation you're in is very important because remember the end goal is always to entertain and sometimes a laugh is more important that a "magical" conclusion even in a magic act.
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