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^^^ What Roth, said !^^^
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When Michael Connelly puts out a new Harry Bosch novel, I don't need to think about it...or find out what it's about. It's Michael Connelly and I KNOW I'm going to like it. I buy it.

I think it's very much the same thing with Neal's work.

In the interests of being upfront: I spent over a week with Neal in NYC a while ago and he's a very close friend. Also in the interest of being upfront: I am not currently using any of the effects I've read about in any of his books. BUT his fingerprints and thinking on presentation are all over many of the ways I choose to perform mentalism. His THINKING is where the treasure is...for me, anyway.

The notion that you have to get specific routines out of any given book or DVD feels a little short-sighted to me. I learn from what the writer teaches me and the WAY he presents it. Seeking access to material from a broad cross section of different performers broadens what I'm capable of...and THAT makes me a better performer.

Why wouldn't an "entertainment" themed mentalist like me NOT want to know how the shut-eyes present their material? Why wouldn't I be keenly interested in how a bizarre performer does a seance or frames a story? I'm interested in all of it. And I'm always excited to see someone I respect presenting on a DVD, not only because I am a visual learner -- but also because so many of the nuances that make a performance great can't be conveyed by the written word.

Some performers forget that THEY are the product...the effects and routines they present are the sum total of their own creativity blended with all the other influences in which they've invested and really worked to understand and absorb. When you purchase a book or a DVD or an effect, you're really investing in the "product of YOU."

Is Scryer a good "investment" for everyone? Of course not. But I don't think everyone loves Harry Bosch novels...or Leonard Cohen music...or old Bogart movies the way I do either. Different strokes, guys.

So decide for yourself if it's worth an investment for YOU...and ignore all the "hype", cross talk and armchair speculation.

As for me? Here's a project where the material designed by a guy with a genius for simplicity is being presented by not one but TWO performers for whom I have the greatest respect. And it's all only a hundred bucks?

Where do I sign?

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On Dec 8, 2014, David Thiel wrote:
When Michael Connelly puts out a new Harry Bosch novel, I don't need to think about it...or find out what it's about. It's Michael Connelly and I KNOW I'm going to like it. I buy it.

I think it's very much the same thing with Neal's work.

In the interests of being upfront: I spent over a week with Neal in NYC a while ago and he's a very close friend. Also in the interest of being upfront: I am not currently using any of the effects I've read about in any of his books. BUT his fingerprints and thinking on presentation are all over many of the ways I choose to perform mentalism. His THINKING is where the treasure is...for me, anyway.

The notion that you have to get specific routines out of any given book or DVD feels a little short-sighted to me. I learn from what the writer teaches me and the WAY he presents it. Seeking access to material from a broad cross section of different performers broadens what I'm capable of...and THAT makes me a better performer.

Why wouldn't an "entertainment" themed mentalist like me NOT want to know how the shut-eyes present their material? Why wouldn't I be keenly interested in how a bizarre performer does a seance or frames a story? I'm interested in all of it. And I'm always excited to see someone I respect presenting on a DVD, not only because I am a visual learner -- but also because so many of the nuances that make a performance great can't be conveyed by the written word.

Some performers forget that THEY are the product...the effects and routines they present are the sum total of their own creativity blended with all the other influences in which they've invested and really worked to understand and absorb. When you purchase a book or a DVD or an effect, you're really investing in the "product of YOU."

Is Scryer a good "investment" for everyone? Of course not. But I don't think everyone loves Harry Bosch novels...or Leonard Cohen music...or old Bogart movies the way I do either. Different strokes, guys.

So decide for yourself if it's worth an investment for YOU...and ignore all the "hype", cross talk and armchair speculation.

As for me? Here's a project where the material designed by a guy with a genius for simplicity is being presented by not one but TWO performers for whom I have the greatest respect. And it's all only a hundred bucks?

Where do I sign?

David


Exactly . . . Ditto! Thanks David for formulating your perspective so beautifully as it mirrors mine perfectly.

Additionally, I trust all will find what they seek from their investments in such projects and do find that which propels THEM into a better space as a performer and person.
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I'd love a review from anyone who has purchased it. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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I wish we had more DVDs showing effects done live on stage in front big and paying audience. One on one mentalism is nice but sometimes I feel we have to much of it this days and way way too little from the other.
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Hello everyone,

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Just ordered. Looking forward to getting it.

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I took the plunge and bought this set purely on speculation. Very disappointed. I feel it is horribly overpriced.

I am typically a fan of Andrew Gerard, but I think he went a little overboard on this one. Aside from the shoddy film cuts that make it hard to track visually (During the interview section), and the silly reality show MTV feel they attempted to give it, it really seemed that Andrew and his friend (Can't remember his name) didn't have a game plan which led to them being all over the place when trying to discuss this material.

The AG routines were OK, but nothing that warrants the price tag of this set. As far as the Paul Romhany part of the project, well I will state right upfront that I have never been a fan. He states himself that he is not a mentalist, and whenever I see him try to perform mentalist routines, it always feels very awkward to me.

None of these routines, as presented, were anything to write home about IMHO. I am not slinging mud for the sake of slinging mud. I was hoping to find something of value in this, but I didn't. It literally feels like I put a 100 dollar bill into the shredder.

I would recommend you think carefully before purchasing this. But ones man's trash and all that ....
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Thank you! I got it Friday, feel the same, and thought "Maybe it's just me..."
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Best thing is don't buy Scryer stuff or any stuff at that .yes please don't buy anything , let them starve , as they will being the Café buys big time and is number one revenue .
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Stop spiking the Egg Nog Carlzen. Lol
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Don't know what that means, just agreeing with you. If it was not for the Café all creators would be out of business. I am saying good you are stepping up and saying these DVDs are bad .
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Carl, it wasn't a pot shot. I was just making a joke. Just a figure of speach. All is good. Smile
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Ok got it, thanks . So best stay away from these is your expert opinion .
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I'm certainly not qualifying myself as an expert, lol but yes I found this project to be weak. I always try to fine at least one solid piece in any book, DVD etc, but this one has nothing for me. Doesn't mean someone else might think these are gold though. But I didn't like this at all.
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I'm waiting on my copy to arrive, was there anything in particular you didn't like sbays? or just an overall feeling?

lack of teaching, didn't like the presentations? something else?
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Thanks for your honest review sbays it gives people a balanced opinion.
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Honestly it was a combination of all of those things. I actually sat down a bit ago to try to watch it again with fresh eyes, and I just find it difficult sit through. And there was one camera edit in particularly that annoyed me greatly. There was no need for it. All of these effects are very basic, and I think they attempted to make them much more unsuccessfully. Just not my cup of tea.
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That's why I stick with the Tarbell course . What was that camera edit as I will watch it over a friends house.
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Smile I'm getting this for Christmas... Thinking on not opening it now...
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