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Hi
Question is above...


...because the most mentalism are the same...in principle...

prediction, mindreading, telekinesis...

Are there some good practical unique impromptu tricks? anywhere...anytime?
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Totally impromptu, a shuffled deck is memorized in one second, plus a card named by the spectator is fonud at a number chosen by him. Alas, in French on the video.
The One second memorized deck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBU0T-PYi6g
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By impromptu, do you mean propless?
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Read and study the classic texts. Then go see as many performers as possible.
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Thank you

@Bynmore14 I mean tricks for every situation.... with business cards... etc.
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The standard text books of mentalism are filled with such effects.
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On Oct 4, 2014, mentalmagicgerman wrote:
Hi
Question is above...


...because the most mentalism are the same...in principle...

prediction, mindreading, telekinesis...

Are there some good practical unique impromptu tricks? anywhere...anytime?



Prediction, mindreading, telekinesis, psychokinesis, all that are psychic phenomena. They arent Mentalism effects.
If you think like that, your audience will be bored as h3ll.

Think in appealing premises to use depending in your own approach and persona as performer, understanding what is your role on the performance before wanting material to perform.


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A more complete post from Bob, 3 years ago.. for the same question!!!


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On Feb 23, 2011, mastermindreader wrote:
If you've memorized your lines, practiced the necessary moves and learned your routine in advance, is it really impromptu when you perform it? (Or maybe we're confusing "impromptu" with "extemporaneous"?

Here's the complete passage from "The Impromptu Psychic" that was the source of the ad copy on the Lybrary site:

If a violinist improvised a stunning solo, would it be not be classified as impromptu because he brought his own violin with him?



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From - Webster's Unabridged Dictionary of the English Language:

IMPROMPTU-

1. Made or done without previous preparation: "an impromptu address to the unexpected crowds.

2. Suddenly or hastily prepared, made, etc.: "an impromptu dinner."

3. Improvised: having the character of an improvisation.

4. without preparation: "verses written impromptu."

5. Something impromptu; an impromptu speech, musical composition, performance, etc.

6. A character piece for piano common in the 19th century and having, despite its title, a clear-cut form.




“Impromptu effects” are often described as those that can be performed at any time or place without any preparation. If taken literally, such a definition results in an impossible problem, for the very process of learning impromptu effects and techniques obviously constitutes “preparation.” Lack of any prior preparation, therefore, is not a requirement for “impromptu” performance.

Another restriction often imposed on so-called impromptu effects is that they must not involve any special props or articles not normally found in an impromptu environment. While there are theorists – mostly amateurs – who insist that impromptu effects are those that could be performed naked on a desert isle – we often overlook those things that CAN be found almost anywhere.

Recently, I discovered a very interesting web site called “Willa’s What We Carry Page.” The webmaster, presumably Willa herself, asked her predominantly female readership to send in lists of the things they normally carry with them. The results are surprising and very illuminating. Here are some samples:

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From http://www.willa.com/things/

Willa carries-

Small zippered Liz Claiborne leather wallet (old!) with driver's license, various credit cards, library card, grocery store discount card, a few dollars. Small Le Sac floral cosmetic bag with nail clippers, lipstick (Clinique Black Honey), tiny Clinique lipstick mirror, small Clinique Aromatics Elixir perfume spray, Band-Aids, comb, more hair bands, nail file, pillbox with generic ibuprofen and Aleve.
Clinique hand cream, flashlight, Kleenex pocket pack, glasses, sunglasses, a couple of pens, a tiny spiral bound blank notebook, Mentholatum Soft Lips, cough drops, Certs mints. Key ring: Swiss army knife, tiny LED flashlight, keys. Motorola StarTac phone.

Sandy carries-

Black wallet with credit cards, grocery card, cards for Sam's Club, etc., driver's license, work ID, Blockbuster card, AMC theatre card, casino players club cards, various coupons and receipts, a little bit of $$.

Comb in a case with a mirror, Motorola phone in a red case matching the purse, small address book, book to read at lunch, my lunch in a Ziploc bag (at least in the a.m.; after lunch it's just my used spoon in the Ziploc bag), keys.

Black and white striped Estee Lauder bag with hand lotion, mints, dental floss, toothpicks in a wooden holder, pens, Chap Stick, emery board, tiny flashlight.

Kleenex and my gloves -- at least until it gets warmer

Brandy carries-

Black 5"x7" notebook with lined pages in various colors and a burgundy gelly roll pen
Keychain that has a watch face because I hate having something on my wrists
Visor Platinum in black leather case
Sunglasses in a hard black case
Pages that I've pulled off my cat and kitten daily calendar at work because the pictures are too cute to go in the trash
Something to read, usually a paperback but some times a story or novel on my Visor



Visit Willa’s website and you will find page after page of similar lists. While interesting in a sociological sense they also serve to prove that among any group of people – particularly women with purses, you are likely to find all of the props you would need to put on a full evening’s performance!

Pens, pencils, paper, currency, coins, credit cards, cell phones, and reading material are, as you can see, among the innumerable items that can be found anywhere. (Except, of course, on the proverbial desert island – a place that you are unlikely to be concerned with performing magic tricks and mentalism anyway.)

As to “special props” carried by the performer – the artificial restriction often applied in definitions of “impromptu” overlooks two fundamental facts about professional mentalism and magic:

1. A professional performer is “on” whenever he goes out in public. The things he wears and the things he carries with him are the things that, as a professional, he ALWAYS carries. The reason why he is always ready to perform is summarized in the next fundamental fact.

2. Impromptu effects are probably the MOST IMPORTANT effects a performer will ever do, for they are the ones that will spread your reputation and get you bookings.

To my mind, the essence of “impromptu” – and its true meaning as far as professional mentalism is concerned – is revealed in the Latin root of the word:


In promptu esse: to be ready


The ability to improvise in order to take advantage of particular situations and/or to substitute makeshift alternatives for unavailable properties is invaluable and should be cultivated by any thinking performer. But the real secret of professional “impromptu” work is this:

Seemingly impromptu mental effects are among the strongest you can do. The apparent lack of preparation is what makes them seem real. But never forget that it is the illusion of impromptu, and not its reality, that gives such effects their impact.


“Impromptu” does not mean unprepared, nor does it refer to the ridiculous notion held by many that to be truly impromptu the effect must be something you can do anywhere, anytime, even if you happen to be totally naked. (There is only one routine that I know of that meets these conditions, but if you do it anywhere you run the risk of being arrested.)

Impromptu, more sensibly, refers to the effect on your audience. The effect should either SEEM to have been improvised (the illusion of the first time) or to have been an apparently spontaneous happening.

It's all appearances. The illusion of impromptu is much more difficult to achieve on the stage or in a formal performance setting, but it can be done. (Unless you are performing that strange hybrid called "strolling mentalism" - in which case it is nearly impossible to achieve the illusion of impromptu because the performer is obviously performing prepared routines - often consisting of the same effects - for contiguous groups of people.)

On stage, the illusion of impromptu is achieved by making it seem that the performer has broken from a set sequence or script to improvise ad libitum. Good stand-up comics are masters of this technique - when you see them for the first time you will get the feeling that a good part of the act was adlibbed based on circumstances and audience response. But, if you get to see the same comic perform four or five different shows over a short period of time it becomes clear that most of what was done was all part of a prepared script - not always the same script - but one kept in reserve for use in a particular circumstance.

You should pay particular attention to the things you always carry with you, be it a stack of business cards, thumb tip, billets, prepared watches, pens, wallets, keys, etc. As long as none of them are obviously props whose only purpose is to perform an effect, they are all legitimate ingredients to creating the impromptu illusion.

That being said, I have, nonetheless, included a few effects that actually are possible to do at almost any time or place - for use, presumably, in the other oft cited problem of what to do if all of your props are lost or stolen - but not, I am afraid, without preparation.

There is no such thing.

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Good thoughts,

Bob




And check Marc Spelmann - unexpected DVD for impromptu routine
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We were expecting you... Any other things we could serve you on a silver tray? Smile
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I know your getting a lot of flak for this friend and I don't want to kick salt into the wounds, but I find mentalism to have many different unique premises, Pendulums, PK touches, name/pin divination,DD, blank night, free will,confab,spoon and fork bends, tattle tale, ESP cards, Q&A, readings of any sort, chair tests, birth date routines, zodiac signs, not to mention a billion different card routines that can be presented with a mentalism twist. Im sure I've missed a few genres of effects but that's at least 15 there WITHOUT incorporating the hundreds if not thousands of variations of each effect. So I would certainly say mentalism premises aren't repetitive.
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Hi mentalmagicgerman,

This little book is only $6.00 and it has everything you want to begin with:

http://www.lybrary.com/practical-mental-effects-p-94.html

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- combine predictions and mindreading: predict their thoughts.
- combine super memory with clairvoyance: memorize a whole deck without touching it.
- as Jan suggests, combine politeness with work: read at least one book yourself before you ask others to chew it up for you. Smile
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Because your bold lazyness had me smile and gave me an idea, I'll share it with you. It's about "predicting their thoughts".

Ostentatiously look at your watch (let's say it is 8 pm) and write something on a paper. "This is a prediction", you say. "You'll open it in one minute, that's 60 seconds. I want you to remember it was there all the time and I never came close to it after laying it on the table."
Wait silently for a whole 60 seconds, checking on your watch. If the spectator starts to speak, go "shhh...".

After one minute, tell them to open your prediction. It reads "At 1 minute past 8 pm, you will be thinking of an elephant".
Ask "Are you thinking of an elephant?"
If they say no, you get a bonus effect, say "Mmm, it's a lie!" Smile
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