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So I am wanting to upgrade my show for children and I was wanting some advice. What is your #1 trick in your magic repertoire that children seem to enjoy the most. I have a few highlights like a Magic Die Box, Vanishing Bandana (Banana) but my #1 is probably a balloon swallow.
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Pin thru balloon, sponge bunnies, anything with rope, story telling cards , colour changing children's books. There's tons of others but that's what ingot from the top of my head, as far as ropes goes a good cut and resorted routine where you can make the knot move around probably works best for me when I'm entertaining Childeren so that would be my number 1. Hope this was helpful.

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Out of curiosity what provisos do you put forward to ensure that kids don't try to swallow balloons?
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Right! Red Hat! Even a tiny scrap of a bslloon can cause suffocstion in s child!!!!!!!!!!!

Children DO try eo emulate! I hope you have LOTS OF LIABILITY INSURANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. EVERY TRICK I DO IS MY NUMBER ONE TRICK. IF IT WERE NOT, IT WOULD NOT BE IN THE REPERTOIRE!
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I always state how I have practiced this method for years and that it is dangerous and that children should never try this at home and it has never been a problem. I have performed it for children for the last 11 years and it has always been received very well from children and parents.
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I only do coin and card magic myself. The ones that get the best reactions out of kids are the simplest tricks with hard-hitting visual impact: "Quick as a Wink" from the first Karl Fulves book on self-working card tricks, and "Automatic Pencil Writing" from Scarne on Card Tricks. I use a much different card force for "Automatic Pencil Writing" than the Scarne book recommends (I absolutely hate the one in the book), but it probably doesn't matter much - the visual impact hits hard.

I've found that you really do have to keep tricks simple with kids - no unnecessary deals because they lose interest quickly (the primary child spectator might not, but the kids around him / her sure do), and should you like spelling tricks (I can't stand them) you really need to keep it simple with kids. I once saw someone try that "The Magic of Manhatttan" trick with kids and it was a colossal failure.
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On Oct 8, 2014, Mr. Tyler wrote:
I always state how I have practiced this method for years and that it is dangerous and that children should never try this at home and it has never been a problem. I have performed it for children for the last 11 years and it has always been received very well from children and parents.


I've already made as statement in the other "Getting Gigs" post. I doubt whether your "warning" about trying the balloon stunt at home, would "hold up" in court. That may be OK in an adult comedy club, but if I were a parent, and you started that in front my my kids, I would stop you right there. --and I would be sure to tell my friends about you.

We have a "motto" on the wall of the Showmen's League of America club rooms in Chicago. It states simply: "YOU CANNOT SMARTEN UP A CHUMP."
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I have already ommented post.

Even the balloon manufactures warn about little kids and balloons. It's on the plastic bag!

There is a "thing" called INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE, One child suffocating because he tried to copy the magician, just might cure you of that.
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The first line above should state "I've already commented on your other post
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My wife almost spit out her tea when I said someone stated that their number one trick for kids was balloon swallowing. Wouldn't happen at any kids party she was at.

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On Oct 8, 2014, RogerTheShrubber wrote:
I only do coin and card magic myself. The ones that get the best reactions out of kids are the simplest tricks with hard-hitting visual impact: "Quick as a Wink" from the first Karl Fulves book on self-working card tricks, and "Automatic Pencil Writing" from Scarne on Card Tricks. I use a much different card force for "Automatic Pencil Writing" than the Scarne book recommends (I absolutely hate the one in the book), but it probably doesn't matter much - the visual impact hits hard.

I've found that you really do have to keep tricks simple with kids - no unnecessary deals because they lose interest quickly (the primary child spectator might not, but the kids around him / her sure do), and should you like spelling tricks (I can't stand them) you really need to keep it simple with kids. I once saw someone try that "The Magic of Manhatttan" trick with kids and it was a colossal failure.


Hi Roger,

Never really thought of doing kids shows (though that's where the work is) - kiddie props are not my thing so your comment about using cards and coins really caught my eye. What age groups are the kids and how big groups do you entertain?

Thank you for your help,

Danny
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Hello Mr Tyler,

I am concerned that you may feel lambasted, put upon and vilified without your question being answered.

Should you feel that the concerns being raised about balloons are valid you may wish to consider "the Milk Jug" trick as an alternative. Though not a children's performer myself a friend does this trick regularly to great acclaim (the kids demand to see it in bookings) and it is scripted such that the kids do not take Dad's newspaper and pour a jug of milk down it.

Should on the other hand you feel that after 11 years of no kids dying you have nothing to worry about then I invite you to consider the turkey and the turkey farmer. The turkey says "this place is great, I have fresh bedding and the farmer comes and feeds me every day". Should disaster hit even once in 100 years you might want to consider how you would feel.

Hoping it never happens and wishing you well,

Danny
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Hi Danny!
Perhaps I reacted a bit strongly, but Mr. T. waved a 'red flag' and, I felt that I should speak up. We magicians don't need a story about a child dying after trying a trick seen at a party.

Then Mr. T "defended" his point! I inferred from that defense, that he had no intention of cutting the balloon bit from his program.

IMO, your turkey story made the point very well.

Looking back "up this thread", Frankvomit offered some positive suggestions. You,Danny raised a very valid point,I emphasized your point. Then, Mr. T. DEFENDED his point. Roger added some practical and useful observations about "what works". I came back and
re-emphasized the danger. 55Hudson very colorfully re-emphasized the danger. Danny asked Roger for some info. to clarify his points. Finally, Danny raised the point that "we" had only negative things to say, and made a good positive suggestion, and, again, re-emphasized (with the turkey story!) the danger.

I'll be "right back"...don't go away!
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I'm back!

On Oct. 8 at 2:35 PM, in the "Getting Gigs thread, started by Mr. T, I wrote a fairly long comment. SEE THE LAST PARAGRAPH of my post.

I felt that Mr. T. was asking me/us to build his act for him. If he had asked for an opinion on a specific trick, I would have been happy to express my thoughts. But, he asked me to suggest specific tricks.

I have often helped beginners build an act, BUT, I charge a fee for this service, and I am well paid for my espertise. "THERE AINT NO SUCH THING AS FREE LUNCH!"

I have mentored a number of young fellows, who are now full time successful professionals.

When I was a talent consultant for school assembly booking offices, I was often asked to "play doctor". I was paid for this work.

SHOW BUSINESS, as I've often stated, is spelled: $how bu$ine$$.
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Mr. Tyler you probably have enough magic already and don't realize it, tell us what is in your act currently and what age bracket your aiming for.

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Something in me says that doing a balloon swallow might not be best to show kids. Check out Silly Billy's lecture on penguin. You can pick up some great concepts there
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Frankie5!!!

Apparently you resd down this thread! If our comments on balloon swallowing csused "something" in you to say NO, perhaps our comments helped.

Re: "some great concepts": Did you see David Kaye ( aka Silly Billy) in that video last week. shoving that little girl all over the stage,at a national convention, trying to get her to kiss that little boy? YUK! It was some sort of routine in which the "princess" must kiss the frog to change it into the "handsome prince". The girl was obviously not willing. Silly Billy shoved her all over.

I don't think putting a diaper on a boy's head is "high comedy". Creating sounds of flatulence, because it makes kids laugh
doesn't quite make you a comedian or a magician.

I understand that his income is in the six figures, but, that's "chump change" in NYC!

Sorry but, IMHO, OUR OPINIONS on what constitutes "great concepts", don't coincide.

P.S. A friend from the UK send me a video of Silly Billy shoving the lttle girl at a national convention.
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Never done the balloon swallow for anyone under 12 I believe, don't think I would, I think balloon animals would probably
go over better for smaller kids cause it's something they're going to Cary around and play with for the rest of the party.
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