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In another thread Bonnie and Clyde came up as an overrated movie.
Any other nominees?

I'll nominate Young Frankenstein. I don't think I laughed once. Spaceballs was much funnier.
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LOL. I think the exact opposite. Spaceballs terribly overrated. Young Frankenstein hilarious.

But I'll nominate Natural Born Killers. What a waste of a couple of hours.
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Actually, Bonnie and Clyde was grossly under-rated when it was first released. Time magazine panned it for it "glorification" of violence and the Academy Award that year went to "In the Heat of the Night." The irony was that the latter was actually over-rated and the award was widely seen as an effort by the Academy to make up for not giving Rod Steiger's film "The Pawnbroker" the award the previous year.

Then, for the first time ever, Time magazine published a new review of Bonnie and Clyde, admitting that their initial review had completely missed the artistry and point of the film. This time they praised it highly.

Bonnie and Clyde remains a ground-breaking film and is hardly "over-rated."

"In the Heat of the Night," on the other hand, would qualify, IMO, as an over-rated film.
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I agree with rockwall, though, that Young Frankenstein was hilarious and FAR better than Space Balls.
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If it was grossly underrated, it certainly recovered quickly; it was one of the top grossing movies of the year, and no film that year had more Oscar nominations.
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Agree with Rockwall on Natural Born Killers.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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It is all a matter of taste, isn't it?
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I am speaking of the Bonnie and Clyde offering from the History channel.

But American Beauty takes the prize for me.
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On Oct 26, 2014, tommy wrote:
It is all a matter of taste, isn't it?


Certainly not!
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The irony was that the latter was actually over-rated and the award was widely seen as an effort by the Academy to make up for not giving Rod Steiger's film "The Pawnbroker" the award the previous year.


Heck of a movie, The Pawnbroker.
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Actually, Bonnie and Clyde was grossly under-rated when it was first released. Time magazine panned it for it "glorification" of violence and the Academy Award that year went to "In the Heat of the Night." The irony was that the latter was actually over-rated and the award was widely seen as an effort by the Academy to make up for not giving Rod Steiger's film "The Pawnbroker" the award the previous year.

Then, for the first time ever, Time magazine published a new review of Bonnie and Clyde, admitting that their initial review had completely missed the artistry and point of the film. This time they praised it highly.

Bonnie and Clyde remains a ground-breaking film and is hardly "over-rated."

"In the Heat of the Night," on the other hand, would qualify, IMO, as an over-rated film.
Bonnie and Clyde was the first adult film my friends and I snuck in on. Still like the film as much today.
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I've watched "Casablanca" 3 times recently. A good movie, certainly, but for me not a classic.

But one person's opinion doesn't make it 'overrated'.
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Titanic.


I put up with it to get laid so while I totally agree and spent the entire movie screaming"sink the ship already" I can't call it to over rated.

The ending bugged me too. Just throw it away and don't sell it to use the money to do any good.
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The Piano.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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If it was grossly underrated, it certainly recovered quickly; it was one of the top grossing movies of the year, and no film that year had more Oscar nominations.


As I noted, it was initially grossly under-rated by critics, including Time magazine. No question that it was a major box office success. Bonnie and Clyde was also among the first 100 films selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry.

Pretty good for a film that some consider "over-rated."
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Re: Titanic.

Female takeaway: That was so romantic, he was willing to give up his life for her.

Male takeaway: If she would have just done what he told her, they'd have lived happily ever after, but NOOOOO, she had to get him killed*.

*- Spoiler: He tells her to get in the lifeboat and he (established as an extremely resourceful survivor) will meet up with her later. She refuses so they can be together, and they go on to find buoyant material...that's only big enough for one of them. I think to think he spent his last hours cussing her out in his mind.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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Danny- I agree with you about the television version of Bonnie and Clyde. What was the point of remaking a classic anyway?
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If it was grossly underrated, it certainly recovered quickly; it was one of the top grossing movies of the year, and no film that year had more Oscar nominations.


As I noted, it was initially grossly under-rated by critics, including Time magazine. No question that it was a major box office success. Bonnie and Clyde was also among the first 100 films selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry.

Pretty good for a film that some consider "over-rated."


I'm not sure how long your "initially" time period was. It was released in August, and by nomination time, at least among the Oscar folks, it wasn't underrated by the nominators.

Of course is has many trappings of success. The fact that it was a major box office success and an early selection for preservation (and a Best Picture nominee) is precisely WHY some of us consider it overrated.

Thoughts on B & C vs. The Graduate or Guess Who's Coming to Dinner (two other Best Picture nominees that year)?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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