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Guess Who's Coming to Dinner was pretty awful in my opinion, and I haven't seen The Graduate in a long time. I don't know if it still holds up. But back in 1968 (?) we thought it was the bee's knees. Dustin's first movie and he was different from all the other Hollywood leading men.
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Danny- I agree with you about the television version of Bonnie and Clyde. What was the point of remaking a classic anyway?


I saw no point unless they seriously wanted a documentary. Which obviously they didn't.
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To be fair you fellas are much more connoisseurs than myself. If there are no car chases or explosions or gun fights and partial nudity I will probably pass anyhow.
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Here's one I probably will get disagreement on: Gone with the Wind.
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Here's one I probably will get disagreement on: Gone with the Wind.


Yep, I disagree Smile
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Here's one I probably will get disagreement on: Gone with the Wind.


Frankly I don't give a..... yea I just went there.
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Oh, one more I know I will get disagreement on : The Deer Hunter. Brilliant acting, but a mess of a movie and politically incoherent and dishonest. OTOH, Apocalypse Now! (the movie, not the Harry Lorayne command) is in my top five favorite movie list.
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Actually, landmark, I agree with you about both The Deer Hunter and Apocalypse Now!
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Lobo-

Here's exactly what I'm talking about and the time frame. (Note that I made a mistake earlier and said that it was Time Magazine that changed its position. I remembered incorrectly- it was Newsweek):

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The film was controversial on its original release for its supposed glorification of murderers, and for its level of graphic violence, which was unprecedented at the time. Bosley Crowther of The New York Times was so appalled that he began to campaign against the increasing brutality of American films.[35] Dave Kaufman of Variety criticized the film for uneven direction and for portraying Bonnie and Clyde as bumbling fools.[36] Joe Morgenstern for Newsweek initially panned the film as a "squalid shoot-'em-up for the moron trade." After seeing the film a second time and noticing the enthusiastic audience, he wrote a second article saying he had misjudged it and praised the film. Warner Brothers took advantage of this, marketing the film as having made a major critic change his mind about its virtues.[37]

Roger Ebert gave Bonnie and Clyde a largely positive review, giving it four stars out of a possible four. He called the film "a milestone in the history of American movies, a work of truth and brilliance." More than 30 years later, he added the film to his "Great Movies" list. Film critics Dave Kehr and James Berardinelli have also praised the film in the years since.

The fierce debate about the film is discussed at length in For the Love of Movies: The Story of American Film Criticism. This 2009 documentary film chronicles what occurred as a result: The New York Times fired Bosley Crowther because his negative review seemed so out of touch with the public, and Pauline Kael, who wrote a lengthy freelance essay in The New Yorker in praise of the film, became the magazine's new staff-critic.



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OTOH, Apocalypse Now! (the movie, not the Harry Lorayne command) is in my top five favorite movie list.


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The Shawshank Redemption.

Totally overrated imho...
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Actually, landmark, I agree with you about both The Deer Hunter and Apocalypse Now!


We used to play a version of Russian Roulette we called The Beer Hunter with one of the cans shaken up. .. I'm sure you guys get the idea.

Wasn't really a fan of a Clockwork Orange.
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The Shawshank Redemption.

Totally overrated imho...


Really? I think it's one of the best ever adaptations of a Stephen King work.
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The Shawshank Redemption.

Totally overrated imho...


Really? I think it's one of the best ever adaptations of a Stephen King work.


I agree that it's the best adaptations of a King work (Stand By Me is right up there, too) and I'd say one of the best movies in history.
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My robe, Lobo. For a film about freedom it was hardly a patch on Spartacus.
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The Shawshank Redemption.

Totally overrated imho...


Really? I think it's one of the best ever adaptations of a Stephen King work.


I agree that it's the best adaptations of a King work (Stand By Me is right up there, too) and I'd say one of the best movies in history.


A friend of mine saw it first. His recommendation was "just go". Nothing to sell it none of that. This speaks volumes about the film.

It was one of my favorite endings. Really tied it up well and at a great pace.

Did you ever see the Family Guy treatment of the Steven King works? Shawshank, Misery and Stand By Me. Really great way to spend a half hour.
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Dr Zhivago.
Contrived drivel.
The soundtrack goes a long way to saving it though.
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I know I'll get a lot of flack for this one, but here goes... Star Wars (any of them). Way overhyped, imo.

On the other end of the spectrum, I agree with Bob and Lobo... Shawshank Redemption is one my all-time favorites, and totally deserving of any accolades. Smile


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I don't know that Shawshank was one of my best evers, but it was an entertaining movie in my opinion.

Okay: this. Everything directed by Stanley Kubrick except for Dr. Strangelove. Overrated, all.
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