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Raj Suman Veteran user 318 Posts	Posted: Oct 29, 2014 07:24 am 0 I will be upset if I have to pay more as I am a loyal subscriber already. I wonder if it is?
Mister E. Regular user Germany 189 Posts	Posted: Oct 29, 2014 09:06 am 0 Quote: On Oct 28, 2014, Clel-Mentalist wrote: So in other words not great I don't think you are getting the point. Derren Brown is one of the greatest magical entertainers of our time. If he only gives insight in performance and character building this will be probably more worth, than if he teaches effects. What would you do with his effects? Perform them? To find out that you're still not half as entertaining as he is? I wouldn't dare to.
mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts	Posted: Oct 29, 2014 09:15 am 1 Quote: On Oct 28, 2014, BCE wrote: Call me naive (I openly plead ignorance until someone can clarify it for me), but having established that this may be more similar to the Cassidy/Osterlind lecture that attracted considerable flak, there's nothing in the ad copy to suggest this will be included with subscriptions. Is that presumption correct? In other words, all previously-scheduled and to-be-scheduled subscription-accesible lectures will proceed as usual independent of this? Any clarification would be much appreciated to put the gossip to rest. Thanks. Richard's and my lecture got as many five star reviews as it did negative ones. But, sadly, it seems to be true that there are many who are only interested in new tricks, rather than getting an insight into the thinking, scripting and stagecraft that makes mentalism work. Bob Cassidy Professional Consulting Sessions for Mentalists The Workshop
RobertMarsi Loyal user 237 Posts	Posted: Oct 29, 2014 10:58 am 0 Wait a minute. Am I dreaming? My man David Berglas doing a Penguin lecture? That will be awesome! What a line-up!
saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10798 Posts	Posted: Oct 29, 2014 03:37 pm 1 Quote: On Oct 29, 2014, mastermindreader wrote: Quote: On Oct 28, 2014, BCE wrote: Call me naive (I openly plead ignorance until someone can clarify it for me), but having established that this may be more similar to the Cassidy/Osterlind lecture that attracted considerable flak, there's nothing in the ad copy to suggest this will be included with subscriptions. Is that presumption correct? In other words, all previously-scheduled and to-be-scheduled subscription-accesible lectures will proceed as usual independent of this? Any clarification would be much appreciated to put the gossip to rest. Thanks. Richard's and my lecture got as many five star reviews as it did negative ones. But, sadly, it seems to be true that there are many who are only interested in new tricks, rather than getting an insight into the thinking, scripting and stagecraft that makes mentalism work. And that in essence also reflects the biggest differences between magic and mentalism (neither being superior to the other, just different). I notice more and more of the Penguin lectures now feature well known mentalists, but mentalism does depend far more on the stagecraft elements compared with the perfomance of magic. If Derren, Andy and others delve more into those theatrical areas than the effects, I will personally be thrilled and trying to soak it all up as that is the secret sauce. This is what makes these guys tops in their field, and it is also what makes Dr. Bob and Richard so exquisite to watch. Creator of The SvenPad Supreme(R) line of aerospace level quality, made in the USA utility props. https://svenpads.com/
eboetcker Regular user Jacksonville, FL 187 Posts	Posted: Oct 29, 2014 06:09 pm 0 Quote: On Oct 28, 2014, Clel-Mentalist wrote: Think its telling these are advertised as events and not lectures. Don't get your hopes up guys, I'd bet these will be little more than the interviews fcm put out. While mildly interesting for fans, no effects taught! No effects taught? I don't think that is an accurate assumption by any means. - Erik Casey - Instagram https://www.instagram.com/erikcasey/ Email gmail@erikcasey.com Website www.erikcasey.com
Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3640 Posts	Posted: Oct 29, 2014 06:28 pm 0 Quote: On Oct 29, 2014, saysold1 wrote: If Derren, Andy and others delve more into those theatrical areas than the effects, I will personally be thrilled and trying to soak it all up as that is the secret sauce. This is what makes these guys tops in their field, and it is also what makes Dr. Bob and Richard so exquisite to watch. Spot on! When the chips are down, the duvet is uncomfortable.
Alwow Special user Los Angeles 544 Posts	Posted: Oct 29, 2014 07:47 pm 0 Quote: On Oct 29, 2014, saysold1 wrote: If Derren, Andy and others delve more into those theatrical areas than the effects, I will personally be thrilled and trying to soak it all up as that is the secret sauce. This is what makes these guys tops in their field, and it is also what makes Dr. Bob and Richard so exquisite to watch. Absolutely agree. I'm on the I have enough effects bandwagon. If you can teach me how to continue to grow as a performer I'm sold! "Everything I show you is the truth... And the truth is the loveliest of lies"
Sensio Special user I promise I won't exceed 641 Posts	Posted: Oct 30, 2014 07:13 am 0 Shouldn't Acar clarify a little ? Smiles, rumours, wonders going on here! Hype is good but confusion is a totally different thing IMHO. Rgds https://skymanmentalist.com
FrankieF Veteran user So Cal 334 Posts	Posted: Oct 30, 2014 07:16 am 0 How are we going to purchase it is it a download or a dvd and is there anyway to preorder?
Raj Suman Veteran user 318 Posts	Posted: Oct 30, 2014 10:53 am 0 Good news. This lectures and interviews are covered as part of the existing subscription for live lectures which is a good thing. A good value for moneyy.
Prometheus Special user Europe 524 Posts	Posted: Oct 30, 2014 05:52 pm 0 Hi folks, I would be interesting how every single one of them would describe themself as a performer, but also as the person that they are off stage. Greetings Prometheus - Prometheus
Mark Storms Veteran user Seattle, WA 393 Posts	Posted: Oct 31, 2014 04:04 am 0 I wonder if these will actually be lectures or if they will just be interviews. Find out what you cannot do.., Then go and do it!
saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10798 Posts	Posted: Oct 31, 2014 04:32 am 1 I think lectures. Acar doesn't screw around Creator of The SvenPad Supreme(R) line of aerospace level quality, made in the USA utility props. https://svenpads.com/
GordonTheHypnotist Elite user Don't Read This Sign 495 Posts	Posted: Oct 31, 2014 04:41 am 0 I don't get it !!!!' Acar came on this very thread and said ASK QUESTIONS!!! It is really up to us what material is covered. You want to know something specific. Ask the question? If you think it is really important get everybody to vote on those questions to raise their value! And last but not least this event is going to recorded so Penguin will have a profound knowledge to what is included in each lecture. If it sounds like something you want then by all means purchase it. If you already have the subscription then you are getting a better deal. But if you don't go on the penguin site and ask the questions you want learn about then you really have nothing to complain about. Sure they may not pick your questions but then you don't have to purchase it. Gullibility is an attractive quality in people
MovieMan Special user 569 Posts	Posted: Oct 31, 2014 05:14 am 0 Quote: On Oct 28, 2014, Clel-Mentalist wrote: Nowhere in the ad copy is it explicit that these are live lectures like we have been used to. Would Acar like to chime in? Did you read the original post? Quote: On Oct 27, 2014, Acar wrote: 1. Understandably, these legends cannot travel to us, so we are going to them. 2. Due to their busy schedules and locations, we will not be able to broadcast these events live. 3. They're going to be broadcast soon after, starting when we return. 4. However, we'll STILL be asking YOUR questions! Go back and read more carefully.
saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10798 Posts	Posted: Nov 7, 2014 01:55 pm 0 Just heard that the Derren Browne lecture is taping today! How cool is that? No idea when it's airing but no doubt some VIP's will be in attendance. Creator of The SvenPad Supreme(R) line of aerospace level quality, made in the USA utility props. https://svenpads.com/
saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10798 Posts	Posted: Nov 7, 2014 01:56 pm 0 Sorry about the extra E - on my iPhone. Creator of The SvenPad Supreme(R) line of aerospace level quality, made in the USA utility props. https://svenpads.com/
Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts	Posted: Nov 7, 2014 04:29 pm 0 Quote: On Oct 29, 2014, mastermindreader wrote: Quote: On Oct 28, 2014, BCE wrote: Call me naive (I openly plead ignorance until someone can clarify it for me), but having established that this may be more similar to the Cassidy/Osterlind lecture that attracted considerable flak, there's nothing in the ad copy to suggest this will be included with subscriptions. Is that presumption correct? In other words, all previously-scheduled and to-be-scheduled subscription-accesible lectures will proceed as usual independent of this? Any clarification would be much appreciated to put the gossip to rest. Thanks. Richard's and my lecture got as many five star reviews as it did negative ones. But, sadly, it seems to be true that there are many who are only interested in new tricks, rather than getting an insight into the thinking, scripting and stagecraft that makes mentalism work. Sadly Bob, there isn't much of a market for teaching people how to think...It's all about instant gratification.
Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts	Posted: Nov 7, 2014 04:35 pm 0 I'd be hugely keen to see Derren not playing his mentalist persona ..not something I've seen a lot of.
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