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Nick Sand
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I am looking for a good stable table to work off of that is light weight. Any suggestion?
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Your two conditions cancels out your question. Weight is relative to each person. There are stable tables, but if your stage is not solid and firm, then it will cause even a stable table to be weak.

You did not state if you are looking for a 3 leg table or a 4 leg table.

The only thing that I think of, that will meat your requirements is an ordinary card table. Just throw a decorative table cloth over it and you will be all set. If you don't want your props to show, then make a cardboard 3 sided screen and put your name on it. To my knowledge there is nothing you can buy already made.

I have this one from Stevens Magic and it is great, it is steel and very stable and solid. No top you have to make or buy one from Abbott's Magic. It will hold up to a 22 inch top. It will also hole a small box as well.

https://www.stevensmagic.com/shop/ultimate-table-base/

This is also a great classic table base and top, after the old P & L Table.

https://www.stevensmagic.com/shop/dragon......ewis-pl/

These table bases have been available for many years on the magic market, again you have to provide your own table top.

https://www.stevensmagic.com/shop/eureka......tandard/
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Well lets just say the stage or parlor floor is very stable. All I want is a light weight table that is stable, I don't care how many legs it has. I have deteriorating disc disease and can't lift past 25 pounds.
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Try a folding Harbin style, Nick. They tend to be lightweight, stable and fold flat and fast. I also have Degenerative Disc Disease and when I do use a table, it's this style.

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They'll run you around $200.
These are from Hocus Pocus; www.hocus-pocus.com but any major magic shop should carry them.

Alternately, you can build your own, like I did. If you have basic woodworking skills, it's not too difficult. Check the Workshop section of the forums for numerous threads/info on these.
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Once again Ekuth Thanks


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Anytime.
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Ekuth,
You continue to be one of the most helpful and knowledgable people at the Café
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To clarify my leg enquiry, 3 leg tables are used on uneven surfaces making it possible to place it in a level position on the floor with a simple turn of the table. A four leg table cannot easily be leveled on an uneven floor, thus it is best for good flooring.
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Bill is right ...3 legs is more stable on all surfaces than for legs (3 legs define a plane, I seem to recall).

A good lightweight table that packs well is this one from Hocus Pocus. I bought one and found it to be fine:
UTILITY STAGE TABLE (MEMBER PRICE $199.00)

The top is made of 3/4" laminated ply, covered in black Formica.
The edges of the table are protected with a chrome rubberized molding.
The base comes apart for easy storage and shipping.
Holds up to 55 lbs!!!

at http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/

I never leave well enough alone , so I replaced the heavy large top with one smaller and lighter and now I find it to be excellent!

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Spider tables are great!
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Yes! Bill, JNeal, and Nick Sand, also Ekuth (or anyone else interested)

A tripod is self levelling! (It cannot rock) In the days when farmers milked cows by hand, they (the farmers, not the cows!!! hee hee)sat on three legged stools. Barn floors were usually "earthen". Concrete didn't arrive for a year or three.)

I have the metal one pictured, I bought it from George Schindler, years ago. When I was booked for just a 30 minute act, I had all the props in a cigar box size case, and it worked just fine. I would not put a heavy square circle or "?" on it, as the metal can "flex" a bit. I wish I had had that table 60 years ago when all I did was that "cigar box" act!!!

Dale Lorzo built a wooden model (1/4" ply)for me, which is a bit shorter and easily "handles" my 20 lb prop case. It carries in an attache case.

Jay Marshall (Magic Inc. Chicago) published "The Table Book" about 30 years ago. You might find some good ideas in Jay's book.

About 25 years ago, browsing in a thrift shop (world's greatest magic shop!)I found a car hop's tray from the days when drive in restaurants had trays that hooked on to your car door. It cost me a dollar. I used it for several seasons on the road. I never found a chair that it would not fit on. I remember back in the '40s, that Roger Montandon (dealer) sold a "home made" version of the car hops tray for a few bucks.
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Now that is a brilliant idea for table hopping, Dick!
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One of our member's already made a try that can clip onto a table edge. Mak Magic had listed the same kind of board that can clip onto the edge of a table.
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On Oct 31, 2014, Ekuth wrote:
Try a folding Harbin style, Nick. They tend to be lightweight, stable and fold flat and fast. I also have Degenerative Disc Disease and when I do use a table, it's this style.

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I have the metal one pictured (silver coloured). The springing open of the table is almost a magic effect in itself. hehe
Mine wobbles a little. Great for setting cards down, chop cup, but please no Smash and Stab. Smile
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On Nov 3, 2014, Bill Hegbli wrote:
One of our member's already made a try that can clip onto a table edge. Mak Magic had listed the same kind of board that can clip onto the edge of a table.


And? It's still a brilliant idea, regardless of who made what when and who has what for sale now...
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Ekuth, seems you read more into my post then the words mean. My point for the posts was to tell all that they are available to purchase if they like the idea of a clip-on working surface. I think it is genius myself. It requires a special metal rod bent, so it is not something easily made by everyone.

I don't understand your hostel tone at informing that others they are located at Mak Magic, and a famous magician member that use to be on the Café.

Where did I mention it was not a "brilliant idea"?

I was being polite, but since you want to condemn my words, I guess I have to say your suggestion to use a Harbin type table is not sound at all. They fall over very easily and when bumped twist and shake. I have owned several and find them problematic at falling over. They have to be on a very level and hard surface, then they still fall at the corner where there is no leg very easily.
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With respect, Bill... that's rather the point.

You didn't say that it was a good idea at all, or even talk about the pros and cons of the old versions vs the new- your post came off as very short and derisive of Dick's suggestion. Rather a 'Well, that's been done before/here are examples' message came across quite clearly.

Perhaps I am mistaken in that- but as you have now seem to have accused me of the same, I can only suggest that it would behoove us both to remember that text is a poor conveyer of tone, that one can easily misinterpet the meaning of another's post and let it lie at that. I'm certain that it is not the first time that it has happened to both of us here.

As to your experience with the Harbin style, I cannot speak to that, as it is your experience. I have found them a reliable lightweight table that fills my needs quite adequately. That is my experience. Since the OP was soliciting recommendations, both our experiences are of equal value in this instance- with no need to start an argument as to whose experiences or preferences are superior. In the end, it is up to the OP to decide his preference.

*tips hat respectfully*
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Ekuth,
You're a class act.
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The late Mike Caldwell had a Russ Walsh (I think) Production Table. It had a small top (maybe 8" x 10") the base was metal tubing held together with elastic shock cord. Mike could come on with the table under his coat, and a battered folding opera hat on his head.

He would jerk out the table, watch it unfold, and set it on the floor. It got a surprised chuckle, but, he had a great line: "Playboy Club! Table for Twelvel!" THAT, got a good laugh.

The heaviest thing he put on the table was his folding hat. It would never work for Nick Sand! But it was funny.

The late Bob Mcallister bought "radio controlled" table from Anverdi, I think, in the early '50s. With a "remote" in his pocket, he could bring on the table.

Soon after he got it, he worked a date on the Norfolk Naval Air Station. He was in a building that had a lot of electronic equipment. When he "turned it on", the electronic gear in the building "took over" Good thing he was young and agile!!! He had to chase the @@%% thing all over the platform! He caught it. The audience screamed! He really had to work, to get the act moving again.

I hope I didn't thoroughly hi jack the thread! I just thought that a bit of humor was needed.
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Not at all, Dick!
What a priceless and hilarious story!
Thank you for sharing it. Have you considered writing a memoire?
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