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Peter_turner
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When did I say that? You're spectating.

Look at the quote I gave the product x
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This is one of the only ones I have liked for sometime just because I have an effect that fits it perfect x
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Are the cards / billets MCF'd or folded in half?
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When did I say that? You're spectating.

Look at the quote I gave the product x

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood. So you will be using this.

It's also worth investigating the work on The Glass Box Prediction by Al Mann and Devin Knight. You could do what you're saying without a gimmicked box which is fully examinable before, during and after. Very powerful stuff.
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I think it would be very odd for someone to ask to inspect the box in a mentalism context. But having said that, I'm not quite sure it qualifies as the sort of everyday object I would consider suitable for a mentalism performance.
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The glass box prediction involves more than one billet though doesn't it...
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Surely Mystery Solved and Glass Box Prediction are two distinct products? The glass box prediction was principally designed to be used for Headline Predictions. Would Mystery Solved survive being left in the possession of the client until the evening of the show?
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Surely Mystery Solved and Glass Box Prediction are two distinct products? The glass box prediction was principally designed to be used for Headline Predictions. Would Mystery Solved survive being left in the possession of the client until the evening of the show?

Glass Box Prediction is a lot more than just a prediction. That's just one effect. Have you read all the literature produced for it? Probably not.
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I think it would be very odd for someone to ask to inspect the box in a mentalism context.


Yes. But it would also be very odd to get rid of the evidence in a hurry, like in this case. This in any case is an odd working prop i.e. after the job is done the prop is to be left lying on its side.

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On Oct 31, 2014, Martin Pulman wrote:
Surely Mystery Solved and Glass Box Prediction are two distinct products? The glass box prediction was principally designed to be used for Headline Predictions. Would Mystery Solved survive being left in the possession of the client until the evening of the show?

Glass Box Prediction is a lot more than just a prediction. That's just one effect. Have you read all the literature produced for it? Probably not.


What a strange comment? Of course I have read all of the literature produced for it. I bought it nearly ten years ago. It was designed and marketed very specifically as a headline prediction. Still is. It can obviously be used for any on-stage prediction, but that hardly makes it the natural alternative to Mystery Solved.
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On Oct 31, 2014, Martin Pulman wrote:

I think it would be very odd for someone to ask to inspect the box in a mentalism context.


Yes. But it would also be very odd to get rid of the evidence in a hurry, like in this case. This in any case is an odd working prop i.e. after the job is done the prop is to be left lying on its side.

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I don't understand what you mean about getting rid of the evidence in a hurry? Once you've tipped the prediction out of the box, the box should cease to be of any interest to your audience, so it would be completely natural to put it in your pocket. Why would you leave it lying on its side?

That's not to say I see this as a natural fit in a mentalism routine. I think we should stick to objects that are found in the real world, and I'm not sure that a clear perspex box qualifies. However, Peter knows his onions and I'm sure he has something devilish up his sleeve using the product.
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On Oct 31, 2014, Martin Pulman wrote:
Surely Mystery Solved and Glass Box Prediction are two distinct products? The glass box prediction was principally designed to be used for Headline Predictions. Would Mystery Solved survive being left in the possession of the client until the evening of the show?

Glass Box Prediction is a lot more than just a prediction. That's just one effect. Have you read all the literature produced for it? Probably not.


What a strange comment? Of course I have read all of the literature produced for it. I bought it nearly ten years ago. It was designed and marketed very specifically as a headline prediction. Still is. It can obviously be used for any on-stage prediction, but that hardly makes it the natural alternative to Mystery Solved.

That explains it. If it was 10 years ago then you haven't yet read Glass Box Revisited & Other Predictions. If you had, you'd know why it's a better alternative.
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...jamie, how do you suggest using this new box with the three predictions needed then?

And I would say martin is easily better read than yourself, so you should take on board his points..
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Iain, if you were better read you'd know it doesn't need three predictions.

Now back in your (glass) box.
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I cant...david Blaine is still in it..
Jamie Ferguson
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I cant...david Blaine is still in it..

Smile Good one!
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It's funny how "fully examinable" is such a big thing these days.

When you know the moves, and have it mixed perfectly with good patter which not only keep the pace moving, but it keeps them engaged with not just the visuals but also in processing the audio for what you're saying, there's just no need.

Who's handing out for examination Double Lifts, The Invisible Deck etc.?

Just do it, and get on with it. The more it's not an issue for you, it won't be an issue for the audience.
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Lets not forget the sanda panda box..
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Please make up my mind for me David Penn’s Mystery Solved or Kennedy mystery box 2. this is for my adult close up. magicwalsh@gmail.com
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Please make up my mind for me David Penn’s Mystery Solved or Kennedy mystery box 2. this is for my adult close up. magicwalsh@gmail.com


I'd say Mystery Solved from their point of view, looks more fair. (only cause it's "completely clear")
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