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magicinsight Inner circle 4306 Posts |
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On Nov 4, 2014, Jamie Ferguson wrote: It's kinda like the hidden messages in The Beatles album covers or songs (Paul is dead type of thing).
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
Paul is dead man! Miss him...miss him....
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3640 Posts |
If anyone has any outstanding questions about Mystery Solved you'll probably find them answered in tomorrow's WPR. Although the show doesn't usually focus on WMS products an exception is being made this week.
I'll be watching. Will you?
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Al Straker Grammar Host Australia 1130 Posts |
I think this is a brilliantly designed prop and it will be useful for those who want to take this route. The strength of this from an audience point of view all hinges on one concept. The box is clear and they can see the card in the box right throughout the routine and the box provides a form of 'isolation' of the object lifting the impossibility of manipulating it somehow during the routine.
So here's some food for thought. What if you were to take an un-gimmicked clear box and have a paper clipped card resting in it. You could ask the spectator to hold the box without fear and even open the lid as you reach in. You can also be extremely clean and fair when removing the card from the box. You then 'execute the business' as you ask them to close the lid of the box and hold out their other hand - perfect misdirection and you simply place the un-clipped card on their other hand as y6ou place the paperclip away in your pocket doing round 2 of 'the business'. Your spectator now has all the 'props' in their own hands and they can be examined to their hearts content. Now ask yourself what the audience has just seen and how they would describe it..... 1. I was given a clear box to hold with a paper clipped card in side it. 2. I chose a card from a deck and signed it, and lost it in the deck, shuffled etc. 3. The magician then asked me to open the lid of the box I was holding the whole time. 4. He took out the card and placed it on my hand. 5. When I unfolded it, this was my signed card!! 6. I checked everything and there was no explanation. Just some food for thought..... Cheers Al
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barts185 Inner circle Can you believe I've been wrong on 1355 Posts |
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
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On Nov 4, 2014, Al Straker wrote: The design of the gimmicked prop might be quite brilliant, but as I look at the props design, the prop in my eyes has a major limitation. After the dirty work is accomplished the prop must be left lying on its side. Let the many ardent supporters of the creator thrash me on this (but that's OK with me ), but the FACT remains that keeping the box lying on its side simply looks awkward. I am sure people in their good senses will agree with me as to what I am trying to harp and convey from the very first post (on this thread) of mine. Quote:
On Nov 4, 2014, Al Straker wrote: Appreciate the nice performance idea using an un-gimmicked clear box with a paper-clipped card placed inside the box. The same performance idea can be applied but without a paper-clipped card by using Alexander de Cova's Lager Switch, which in my opinion is simply brilliant.
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TheTableTopTrixta Special user 708 Posts |
I have just seen this.
It is flawless in design and operation. The DVD is so well produced, really classy. This could have been priced higher, a lot higher. The size is not a problem and I was surprised that angles aren't really a problem at all. Just my thoughts. Ps - who is Jamie F? Café legend! |
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3640 Posts |
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On Nov 5, 2014, TheTableTopTrixta wrote: I'm not a legend. Just some guy who likes to share the occasional scoop. Might have more news for you soon
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twistedace Inner circle philadelphia 3772 Posts |
I really like the idea of having the card paper clipped in a clear box. It's a bit overkill, but a great idea. My buddy and I debate which is stronger all the time: the Kennedy Box or Paperclipped. I personally like the box, but use both. I use Paperclipped for different applications. I actually don't like the idea of a clear box. I bought Regal's box, but want to get rid of it for many of the reasons listed. This new box has some advantages and some disadvantages. To each his own.
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 4191 Posts |
For me personally the limitations aren't a problem as once the item comes out of the box the box becomes dead there should be absolutely zero heat on the box, the prediction should always be the focus not the container used to hold it. Once the prediction comes out of that box if my audience give one, let alone two hoots about the box then I have failed. This of course may not be true when the box is being used for a card to impossible location/transposition type effect. For the type of prediction effect that I am likely to use this for there should be no logical way in which a clear box could have anything at all to do with the outcome.
Even close up I don't think I'd have problems justifying it. I would simply talk about esp testing and test conditions. The prediction needing to be both isolated and fully visible from start to finish. I could probably get some mileage out of talking about the Randi challenge and use the box to illustrate the conditions required to claim the prize. Using this for a lottery prediction then allows me to joke about needing to make my mind up whether to claim the Randi prize or the lottery jackpot. Let me just add that I am not specifically a fan of David Penn, I did use his fobbed (although his handling on the trailer nearly put me right off), fortunately a far more natural looking handling is pretty simple to achieve. I do have coinvexed 3 although I prefer the QB. I met David for all of about a minute at lads and he seemed like a pleasant chap but I have no relationship or affiliation with DP whatsoever and personally don't care one way or another whether anyone else buys this particular box. I will certainly be taking a close look once it is released with a view to possibly using it myself. At this point in time I have not seen the box in the flesh, only on video. Mark |
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3640 Posts |
Check out this weeks WPR for a 'close-up' of the Mystery Solved box. Have a look at the last couple of seconds of the video. David shows you exactly what you're getting. He can't be more fair.
Also (scoop) look out for a sly dig at Hidden Hand around the 5.24 mark
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rasmus Inner circle Switzerland 1696 Posts |
This box looks really nice and as clean as it gets.
rather then perform it as a card to impossible location I would do it as a 100% surefire card prediction. the reason is simple: if the card is allready there in the box and at the end revealed as the signed card of the spectator, the first conclusion will be, that the card had to be switched. that imho is a dead giveaway and will burn the whole heat onto the box as a switching device. if I would do card to impossible location, I would definetly coverup the box with a cloth or similar item. then I explain that the spectators signed card has vanished out of the deck. after that, removing the cloth and showing the card inside the box. now tipping out the card to show, that this is the spectators card. perhaps the gimmick gives the ability to be shown empty at the beginning and then to be covered with a cloth and after that showing, that a card has appeared? that really would be great. that said, with all clear switching devices, I would never ever show the card allready in the box, when you perform with a signed card. just my 5 swiss francs and congrats to david for this nice little device
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magicinsight Inner circle 4306 Posts |
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On Nov 5, 2014, Jamie Ferguson wrote: Jamie, Totally agree with you. I like the fact that you can show the box empty and put a note inside and then later take it out. Looks great! Michael
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Magic Oli New user Australia 84 Posts |
I saw that dig too mr ferguson very funny
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3640 Posts |
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On Nov 6, 2014, Magic Oli wrote: Nice one Oli, you're one of the sharp ones.
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Russell Davidson Inner circle Hampshire, England 1108 Posts |
Looks a good product to me. Glad I don't post here often anymore, nothing has changed, whinging & moaning for pages on end.
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3640 Posts |
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On Nov 6, 2014, Russell Davidson wrote: Yes, including you by the looks of it
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deanbarlow Loyal user 264 Posts |
Hi guys,
Can the box be shown empty prior to the effect, placed into a cloth bag, gimmick activated, card selected, MCF and then the card tipped out of it? Thanks in advance. |
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Sashac Inner circle 1041 Posts |
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On Nov 6, 2014, deanbarlow wrote: Yes. |
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Russell Davidson Inner circle Hampshire, England 1108 Posts |
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On Nov 6, 2014, Jamie Ferguson wrote: Whatever no mark. |
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