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reignofsound
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I asked if earlier if cards had to be mcf'd but they look folded in half?
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On Nov 6, 2014, Sashac wrote:
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On Nov 6, 2014, deanbarlow wrote:
Hi guys,
Can the box be shown empty prior to the effect, placed into a cloth bag, gimmick activated, card selected, MCF and then the card tipped out of it?
Thanks in advance.


Yes.

Ye....as long as you manage your audience.
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Looks a good product to me. Glad I don't post here often anymore, nothing has changed, whinging & moaning for pages on end.

Yes, including you by the looks of it Smile


Whatever no mark.

See, I was right. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
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To be fair, Jamie, Russell is usually pretty cheerful when his products get promoted on here. ;-)
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Cheers chaps,
If this is the case that the box can be shown empty prior to the card 'appearing' in it this could be good.
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The most curious thing to me is that this and 3Sixty seem about to hit the market at the same time. In the eyes of a laymen, they would be identical, although they have different methods. I am wary of how the 3Sixty method will look in the real world. But I REALLY don't see the advantage of having the card in a clear box.....mentalism and billet applications sure, but not for a signed card to box.
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On Nov 6, 2014, Jamie Ferguson wrote:
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On Nov 6, 2014, Sashac wrote:
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On Nov 6, 2014, deanbarlow wrote:
Hi guys,
Can the box be shown empty prior to the effect, placed into a cloth bag, gimmick activated, card selected, MCF and then the card tipped out of it?
Thanks in advance.


Yes.

Ye....as long as you manage your audience.


When showing the box empty prior to the effect will the box need to be on it's side rather than upright? if so it would look a bit odd.
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In every picture where the seemingly empty box is shown, the box has to either be held or put on an upside down glass.
Can the empty-looking box simply be set down on a (non-glass) table or close up mat?
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In every picture where the seemingly empty box is shown, the box has to either be held or put on an upside down glass.
Can the empty-looking box simply be set down on a (non-glass) table or close up mat?



David's been very fair in his trailer and what he's shown of Mystery Solved, so it's pretty clear (no pun intended) what you're getting.

So with that in mind but without saying anything more, no, it probably won't look right putting it on a non glass surface or close up mat...
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Its rare to see any creator be so forth coming in his pre release. Even after a clear demo in the original trailer. But in light of other pre release gong shows, good call. No one can complain after they receive it. Very smart and "classic" design, if I'm correct in assuming.

When finished with the box and since it's clear, you have no need to put it on display or have it examined. It fits in your pocket, out of sight, out of mind.
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I still think it's okay..Just a tad pricey for a poor hobbyist Smile
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rather then perform it as a card to impossible location I would do it as a 100% surefire card
prediction. the reason is simple: if the card is allready there in the box and at the end revealed
as the signed card of the spectator, the first conclusion will be, that the card had to be switched.
that imho is a dead giveaway and will burn the whole heat onto the box as a switching device.

if I would do card to impossible location, I would definetly coverup the box with a cloth or similar
item. then I explain that the spectators signed card has vanished out of the deck. after that, removing
the cloth and showing the card inside the box. now tipping out the card to show, that this is the spectators card.

perhaps the gimmick gives the ability to be shown empty at the beginning and then to be covered with a cloth and after that showing, that a card has appeared? that really would be great.

that said, with all clear switching devices, I would never ever show the card allready in the box, when you perform with a signed card.


just my 5 swiss francs and . . . .


Exactly.

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Got a good point there. I believe you can show it empty and make a card appear.
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ITS amazing to see top profesionals and some not so to discuss a product like children ,you either like a product or not , If you like it great tell us why. how could we tell you not to like it if you do? if you don't like it tell us why and we will make our own decision by reading reviews ,simple and move on to another thing . There is no need to point fingers ( example on Craigs Red) there is no need to fish with questions to find out how a method is done if your a profesional just buy it if you like the reviews or if you belive your going to use it ,you don't need 10 pages of !@#$%ing around to make up your mind ,if you don't like it great if you hate it great ,the world wont change with any of the magic products that come out daily for sale ,it is the magician that will make the difrence on how he will use any product and make the best out of it . Mystery solved is something I find intresting enough for me to buy it and develop my own ideas on its use so it should be the same for anyone that purchases it. let go out to perform if you don't like this product just get your old pack of card and go perform , let make magic happen ,the world is waiting.
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ITS amazing to see top profesionals and some not so to discuss a product like children ,you either like a product or not , If you like it great tell us why. how could we tell you not to like it if you do? if you don't like it tell us why and we will make our own decision by reading reviews ,simple and move on to another thing . There is no need to point fingers ( example on Craigs Red) there is no need to fish with questions to find out how a method is done if your a profesional just buy it if you like the reviews or if you belive your going to use it ,you don't need 10 pages of !@#$%ing around to make up your mind ,if you don't like it great if you hate it great ,the world wont change with any of the magic products that come out daily for sale ,it is the magician that will make the difrence on how he will use any product and make the best out of it . Mystery solved is something I find intresting enough for me to buy it and develop my own ideas on its use so it should be the same for anyone that purchases it. let go out to perform if you don't like this product just get your old pack of card and go perform , let make magic happen ,the world is waiting.


Precisely. It's always puzzled me as to why guys who don't like a trick, prop, book, or video stick around and continue to complain. You nailed it, iramayami.
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ITS amazing to see top profesionals and some not so to discuss a product like children ,you either like a product or not , If you like it great tell us why. how could we tell you not to like it if you do? if you don't like it tell us why and we will make our own decision by reading reviews ,simple and move on to another thing . There is no need to point fingers ( example on Craigs Red) there is no need to fish with questions to find out how a method is done if your a profesional just buy it if you like the reviews or if you belive your going to use it ,you don't need 10 pages of !@#$%ing around to make up your mind ,if you don't like it great if you hate it great ,the world wont change with any of the magic products that come out daily for sale ,it is the magician that will make the difrence on how he will use any product and make the best out of it . Mystery solved is something I find intresting enough for me to buy it and develop my own ideas on its use so it should be the same for anyone that purchases it. let go out to perform if you don't like this product just get your old pack of card and go perform , let make magic happen ,the world is waiting.


Couldn't agree more. But, what would an internet forum be without people pointlessly arguing over things that don't matter in the least?
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Yes helpful .. the Café is not alone though see Jeff Hobson's post on Genii below makes interesting reading.

Yawn. Yes, this is an old and tired argument. I've heard it all before. The rants and pontifications of a few magicians? who's only accomplishments may be reading, writing about or otherwise critiquing others in the field. Performers? Maybe, for a short time or only occasionally. Mostly, armchair referees.


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Precisely. It's always puzzled me as to why guys who don't like a trick, prop, book, or video stick around and continue to complain. You nailed it, iramayami.


Well, the Café would become a rather dull and sterile place if the threads consisted only of people saying how great a prop is and how much they are enjoying using it. Not only that, it would leave younger magicians at the mercy of the snake oil salesman and false advertisers among the "creator" community. A debate on the merits, uses, functionality and logic of a product are invaluable in my opinion.

If you don't like debate, you can always choose not to read the threads and stick to just reading the advertising copy?
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Not only that, it would leave younger magicians at the mercy of the snake oil salesman and false advertisers among the "creator" community.


Yeah, it would be really bad if advertisers could get a HIDDEN HAND getting threads removed that would damage sales.
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Another one of these boxes? Really? Aren't there enough of these? And who really wants to carry around a box like this to do a card production? David Regal came out with the mondo box, someone else came out with one about the size of a tic tac box (perhaps better), and now we have another that is somewhere in between? At least David Regal's box had a bit of a theme with the "emergency tape" around it. What is the patter for this? "I carry this dorky plastic box with a card in it. Here's your card, but clearly you can't examine my little box. Hey! Get your own dorky box! Let me show you another trick to distract you from my useless box."

Sorry, but why do the products still spew out when the creativity has waned?

KJ

P.S. I totally agree with Martin. This is a forum to discuss both sides of products. Well said, Martin.
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