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Nestor D
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That is a bit of interresting knowledge, "The less control people have over their lives, the more likely they are to try and regain control through mental gymnastics" :

http://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/......it_isnt/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mllPKpwNIes

As I understand it : the less control people have over the first part of the experiment, the more likely they are to find a correlation between our magical gesture and the "random events" happening around us, the more likely they are to believe in the laws we give to nature : the easier it is to bend their disbelief...

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The people who received random feedback on the symbol-selection task, who presumably felt very little control over the task, subsequently reported a greater need for structure in their lives.


This might be worth taking into account when creating an effect.
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Really interesting, thanks for the link...

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Interesting , not sure what to think about it.
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A spectator very off balance, mentally, will be much more susceptible to influence, for example. I have seen this approach in many examples of mentalism and magic.

Here is an interesting, and not entirely unrelated, article from the NY Times on our need to engage in magical thinking:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/28/scienc......tml?_r=0
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On Nov 1, 2014, Nestor D wrote:
That is a bit of interresting knowledge, "The less control people have over their lives, the more likely they are to try and regain control through mental gymnastics" :



so desperate housewifes are the best spectators for suggestibility-approaches? Smile
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People who are made powerless will also be more likely to bump into things on the right.
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Since people in general today have less control over their lives than decades ago,
should not any Mentalism effect successful decades ago now be suspect?

Audience change over timer in many ways. This is a new slant on that. (perhaps)

Why then do performers today attempt to emulate methods that worked with a completely different audience?

or, does the fact that some approaches still seem to work suggest that the conclusions of this article or incorrect?
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Nevermind any specific methods used over the past 75 years, but is not Q & A, in many various contemporary forms of presentation, just as effective with today's audiences as ever? Smile
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If anything, a sense of loss of control in our audiences should improve and enhance the success of mystery performance. If this is not the case - if it is true that despite a richer opportunity for our success we fail to exploit that opportunity - we must critically ask ourselves, why?
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So in our performances we should aim for darkness, weird sounds and why not some earthquake sensation.

In other words can we truly take advantage of the principles the OP correctly put?
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Darkness is notoriously effective to improve impact during a seance.

What else can we use ? as the article explains, the way we give feedback to our subject can change deeply his perception...
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While this would help a bizarre magician, I fail to see it help a mentalist. When we lose sight in the night, we find patterns for predators, a wink at our species' past when we had to worry about lions and such.

We see it in superstition, when people come up to us believing we are real. I don't think we cause that, I think the belief was already there (in ESP, etc.), and we hijacked it in our show. I personally do not want audience members to accept I am a real mind reader, and am very uncomfortable when they ask me about it. I find there is nothing I can do to convince them I am just an entertainer, short of explaining what I really did, and not always then. Looking like another messiah, and starting my own religion is NOT what I want, nor do I want people giving me responsibility of super powers. I am sure all of us have had the individual that nearly worshiped us for our powers - not my cup of tea. I don't want faith, faith is not entertaining and puts way too much responsibility on me. I'm an entertainer.

What I want is a TEMPORY suspension of disbelief and a nagging question of what really happened during the show.
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