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On Nov 6, 2014, reese wrote:
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I guess they are giving this stuff top billing because they are looking for volunteers.
Perhaps the most disgusting thing I've ever read on the Café.


Perhaps you prefer I tell you what you WANT to hear rather than the ugly truth.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.

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This has been said to be about freedom of choice.
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Of course I did. What do you have to say about the second part? I didn't say the owners should have chosen differently.

Nor did I suggest that you did.
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On Nov 6, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:
even though it is substantially the same as yours.


That sounds familiar, Bob
S2000, my point was that you did what I didn't.
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even though it is substantially the same as yours.

That sounds familiar, Bob
S2000, my point was that you did what I didn't.

I understand that.

And I understand that you seem to be condemning me for suggesting that there are times when people should euthanize an animal but don't.
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On Nov 6, 2014, stoneunhinged wrote:
Laurie asked if I think she makes sense, and I think she does--assuming she and I have understood each other.

When she says that she "didn't mean the owners shouldn't have euthanized them", she's saying that she doesn't presume to know the motives or rightness of their decision.

I think we are both loathe to judge--or praise--the decisions of others, but we would prefer people choose life over death.

So Lobo's question is a clever one. Laurie and are are judgmental people who do not want to judge, and it seems to be a contradiction to everyone but us.


Our capacity to make - and meta-think about - moral decisions is one of our most important qualities.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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According to the Vatican your new face is an absurdity and I would not argue with them.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people......093.html
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According to the Vatican your new face is an absurdity and I would not argue with them.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people......093.html


If only they had sent an emissary to explain that God wanted her to die in agony, perhaps she could have had a few more weeks of suffering.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

"...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us."
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But because she didn't die in agony, god is now spreading that agony out amongst those of us willing to read this thread.

The law of conservation of agony. Agony can neither be created, destroyed nor avoided. I'ts just converted into someone elses agony.

So be a good christian and internalize your agony, feed it, nurture it. If you do so you are saving others from agony. WWJD?
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One of the joys of omnipotence must be that if you really want someone to live until a particular day, all of the sodium pentothal in the world won't kill that person.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Tommy-

You miss my point when you imply I'm was being contradictory when I wrote about different types of euthanasia after writing previously that euthanasia is not the main issue in this case.

The issue is freedom of choice. The euthanasia debate keeps obscuring that.
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I'm said to disrespect by you, Bob, and now S2000 says I seem to be condemning.

Where does the word "should" fit in freedom of choice?

"Words like *should* and* must* are the same."
http://www.gaiamtv.com/article/ahimsa-yo......violence
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The word "should" is completely compatible with free choice. Person A makes a free choice, and Person B is free to feel like A should or should not have made the choice. Then Person B makes a free choice about whether or not to vocalize his thoughts on the matter.p
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

"...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us."
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On Nov 6, 2014, magicalaurie wrote:
I'm said to disrespect by you, Bob, and now S2000 says I seem to be condemning.

Where does the word "should" fit in freedom of choice?

"Words like *should* and* must* are the same."
http://www.gaiamtv.com/article/ahimsa-yo......violence

Do you believe that free choice ought to have no limits?

I, for one, do not.
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I'm said to disrespect by you, Bob, and now S2000 says I seem to be condemning.


I never said any such thing.
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I respect your opinion. I can't help it if you don't respect mine
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That doesn't mean the same thing as "you're disrespectful." Not showing respect is passive. Being disrespectful is active.

Nor do "should" and "must" mean the same thing.
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You shouldn't say that.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

"...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us."
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You shouldn't say that.


But I must, I must!
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Bob, Lobo: you guys are awesome!
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