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Magic effects are the only products that you don't know what you're buying until you've bought them..
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On Nov 4, 2014, magicattorney wrote:
I ordered mine today. Said it was not available until the 10th on the web page but it has already shipped. Hope to get it by Wednesday.
I was looking for reviews but it looks so good. We'll see.


Looking forward to some reviews from actual owners.
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Sometimes knowing how it I done can be a real disappointment.
HOWEVER, when you see the faces and reactions of your audience when performing - magic returns!
To your audience in their amazement and astonishment and to you in the form of the pleasure they receive.
As my daughter tells me, she knows how I do all my effects - BY MAGIC - and that is all she wants to know.
If only all audiences were like that - by the way she is a 27 year old lawyer and mother!
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I watched the trailer twice and was amazed both times, and thought this is what the spectator is going to see and remember. Enough for me, to pre-purchase. I work mostly small parties, local pubs etc. Am hoping somehow I might be able to routine this with the V Deck. Killer ending to a routine!
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I ordered and should hopefully get it by Wednesday. I am hoping that it actually looks that amazing in real life. I'll find out next week.
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Trailer just gave me an idea for a method to do something extremely similar in aesthetics. To develop....
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Refills already sold out? Really? Is this a Penguin exclusive, or can I get them anywhere else?
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In my opinion, I don't think the signature is that important in effects like this where the effect is impossibly clean.

When I watch this, it seems like the object never leaves your sight, so a switch wouldn't be suspected, and the signature makes no sense. (What purpose does signing the card serve?) In fact, it almost points to the method, in that it suggests the card could have been switched.

Maybe I'm wrong, but to me the effect is that you have their card in their hand, it melts through the cellophane, and you give it back. How could it have switched when the magician wasn't touching it and it never left my sight? If I buy this, I'm going to test it out without the signature and see if anyone ever makes a comment about it being a different card. I highly doubt it.

I feel the same way about some of the very clean T&R card effects, such as The Reformation. I get it that the signature adds a level of impossibility for magicians, but do lay people ever suspect a switch when the card never appears to leave your sight and fuses together like the magician is describing? Again, watching like a layman - the card is ripped into 4 pieces, then one by one they fuse back together. There is nothing that suggests (or appears plausible) that a switch would even help the effect as it's put together piece by piece. Retrograde analysis may say that he must have switched it, but then logic cancels that out because how is a switch going to explain a half card to a 3/4 card, then back to the full card? Plus he had a free choice of cards to begin with?

I believe a signature should be used when the card is somewhere where it shouldn't / couldn't be, like card to impossible location. Not when it's where it should (and appears to) be.

I don't know, maybe I'm off my rocker, or maybe I'm just a good layman.

Does anyone else agree?
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Yes, I agree with you Cohiba.
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Me too, Cohiba.
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One thing you should be careful about when quoting search results is that Google tailors each search based on the machine being searched from and it's browsing history/cookies/purchases etc. You as a magician looking at magician-y things will get different results from your browser than someone on a different machine or perhaps even using a different browser on the same machine.

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On Nov 7, 2014, SittinDuK wrote:
For what it's worth I had no idea about the Café until it was mentioned to me after attending IBM ring meetings for a couple of months. I think most people who might stumble onto the Café that aren't magicians are probably going to type in Blaine or Brown find 20 pages of magicians arguing and forget all about the websites existence. If they're searching on google for 'signed card into the cellophane of a card box' they're going to see Sealed by Menney Lindenfeld as the 4th link down (as I'm typing this). If they then choose to click that link and your performance was anything like the one in the demos then well they know you did it with something you can buy.

If however they type 'signed card into the wrap of a card box' they're going to have to wade through pages of pinterest and etsy links. So if I end up using Sealed I shall never mention the word cellophane, pretty much how I don't call a Faro a Faro around lay people.

There are some things that I think need full exposure before you can make your own mind on whether you want to purchase that item, however I think a lay person only needs to know that you can buy something that accomplishes the feat they saw to decide that's how you did it regardless of whether that is the method you used.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge.
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On Nov 8, 2014, Kaliix wrote:
One thing you should be careful about when quoting search results is that Google tailors each search based on the machine being searched from and it's browsing history/cookies/purchases etc.


Google's useless when looking for refills. Refills are all sold out. How can the refills be sold out when there's plenty of the DVD's available? It doesn't get any more cart-before-the-horse than that. If anyone has suggestions for a Google search term for finding refills to go with the DVD (now that I'm kicking myself for failing to add it to the cart), I'm all ears.
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I don't think it's that they're sold out, just not available yet.
The DVD & gimmick starts shipping Monday AFAIK, although a couple folks said they were told theirs had shipped last week.
Not sure what the deal is.
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I was able to add refills onto my order when I ordered from Penguin. Hopefully they will all ship together. I wanted free shipping so I tossed Octopalm in too.
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Sorry for the out of stock scare on the refills, fellahs. These flew off the shelf faster than we anticipated. Luckily we should have more coming very soon.

Grab them while you can! At this rate, this next shipment will likely sell out as well.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/4900

ps. I've had a chance to play with this for the last few days...it's so much fun to perform and I have fried a few brains already. Laymen's stand no chance.
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Are refills being released the same day as the full product? I didn't evem think about that. Penguin ships the products when everything on the invoice is present. uh oh.
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Cassidy: If you were able to order the refills prior to them going out of stock, then they should should out with the rest of your order.

Any "REFILL" orders placed after my last post will be part of the next batch (which should be here in a matter of days).
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On Nov 9, 2014, Trevah Whateva wrote:
Cassidy: If you were able to order the refills prior to them going out of stock, then they should should out with the rest of your order.

Any "REFILL" orders placed after my last post will be part of the next batch (which should be here in a matter of days).



Thanks for that info. I appreciate that.
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What if we all went back and talked about the effect like civilized mature people instead of arguing like little kids?
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On Nov 9, 2014, FrankieF wrote:
What if we all went back and talked about the effect like civilized mature people instead of arguing like little kids?


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