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On Nov 27, 2014, Doomo wrote: No need for sarcasm. I asked in good faith; I had looked at a number of his videos and saw no problem. That's why I asked you to point to the ones you found objectionable.
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Terrible Wizard Inner circle 1973 Posts |
Agree jonathan. I only vaguely recall something in the past between Sankey and this guy ... I'll dig around a bit and see what I can find. You'll have to get the others from the original poster. PM him.
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Terrible Wizard Inner circle 1973 Posts |
Some stuff I found just googling:
Some 'evidence' that suggests he is a pirate: http://magiciansthegathering.com/communi......hp?t=714 Some Sankey comment on fbook about DB created a stir (it's worth reading the comments): https://www.facebook.com/disturbreality/......25995695 There some connected thing in magic weekly failure (?) http://weeklymagicfailure.blogspot.co.uk......now.html And this one is about it directly (seems sankey deleted the comment): http://weeklymagicfailure.blogspot.co.uk......got.html There is previous Café discussion here http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......&start=0 And Morelli is on one if his vids: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex4jHLm7SFY There may be more, but I didn't have enough time to google more ... |
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Terrible Wizard Inner circle 1973 Posts |
Note what 52Kards says in the thread linked above: 'Some reputable magicians such as Jay Sankey have even requested permission from me to have their content featured on my channel because they value the promotion they receive in return.'
Found the original fbook post thast I think Sankey deleted: https://www.facebook.com/jay.sankey/posts/10151708392461259 "How often do you see magic performed with a REAL MESSAGE? Please watch this video. This young guy is really trying to do something postive with his magic. Gotta respect that! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_2xPX9xOPE" |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Thanks for the links TW. I stand corrected. Not good.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts |
He has a ten part video series on youtube. the last one has him wiping away magic related text on a whiteboard to replace it with a goal of getting into wrestling.
I don't understand the motivation that justifies giving away other people's work. Seems a strange interpretation of the line about knowing people by their works.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Terrible Wizard Inner circle 1973 Posts |
Indeed!
But why would an established magi give him their blessing? The most generous reason I can come up with is that they simply were ignorant of who they were dealing with and should have done more research. But the 52kards quote, IF true, hints at a much less palatable reason ... |
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Mortimer Graves Special user New Orleans, Louisiana, U.S.A. 556 Posts |
The fact that you can Google "Raven gimmick" and instantly see pictures of it is just evidence of the sad state of magic today.
Honestly, I don't see why the thing's so popular; the fraternity already had a better version for decades before. I've used the old Jack Miller Hold-out for years. It works for pretty much everything, and without a reset. Meh.
'Tis an ill wind that blows no minds.
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Anand Khalsa Loyal user Phoenix, AZ 201 Posts |
Disturb Reality is an abysmal channel. He should not be allowed to expose these things at all.
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mndude Special user 880 Posts |
We could all vote it thumbs down. Won't do much but might lower where it appears on YouTube.
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ZachDavenport Inner circle Last time I posted I had one less than 1196 Posts |
I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt, and say that he is misguided. I actually learned a lot from his channel in my early developments in magic. If he would only reveal tricks he came up with, then it would be just like the library magic book, but that is not the case unfortunately.
Reality is a real killjoy.
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Tukaram Loyal user Iloilo, Philippines 227 Posts |
Some ask why he does it??? Simple - money! If you get enough subscribers YouTube pays very well. I know a number of expats over here in te Philippines making expat videos. Most make little to no money. One of them makes $1,000 a month, with just over 10k subs. And guys like scam school and disturb reality have tons more subscribers... so it pays well. And scam school & distrub reality are 2 of the worst magic channels I have ever seen! (other than the reveal kiddies, of course).
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ZachDavenport Inner circle Last time I posted I had one less than 1196 Posts |
I'm afraid you are wrong about the subscriber thing. It is not based on subscribers. When you monetize a channel you make a unique deal with YouTube.
Reality is a real killjoy.
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CRash5150 New user 21 Posts |
I did crazy man's handcuffs at work, the other day. A trick I learned, honestly, years ago. First time I've performed in a long time. Within five minutes, they googled it and figured it out. I wasn't upset, just kinda disappointed that something that was once a cherished secret is now so available to the masses.
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
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On May 30, 2015, CRash5150 wrote: LOL! Welcome to the Café, Crash! Yep! That's why, after 40 years, my magic has changed... Doug |
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CRash5150 New user 21 Posts |
Thanks, Doug.
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Ya have to find unique stuff that is not on YouTube or Google-able. Old stuff. In books. Look around here:
http://search.slv.vic.gov.au/primo_libra......vid=MAIN You'll be a while! LOL! Incredible collection! All free! Doug |
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CRash5150 New user 21 Posts |
Thank you, sir. I also have tons of books myself. From Erdnase all the way to Paul Harris. Things I have mostly forgotten. Time to refresh.
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CRash5150 New user 21 Posts |
BTW, amazing photographs. I could spend all day, just looking at them.
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1KJ Inner circle Warning: We will run out of new tricks in 4388 Posts |
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On Nov 12, 2014, Darcy.W wrote: He is a loser. If the shoe was on the other foot and he was the creator and some idiot was revealing his product so others don't need to purchase his product, he would be livid! I can't believe anyone would support this person. Oh, he's ok, he kills puppies, but he's really a nice guy. All I can say is "Charma's a b(#ch" KJ |
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