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On Nov 27, 2014, Doomo wrote:
Gee let us see Land mark. He has a full tutorial of Anders Modens Healed and Sealed. Obviously you did not bother to look very closely. He has lots of this crap. But hey... He is just a misunderstood kid.

No need for sarcasm. I asked in good faith; I had looked at a number of his videos and saw no problem. That's why I asked you to point to the ones you found objectionable.
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Agree jonathan. I only vaguely recall something in the past between Sankey and this guy ... I'll dig around a bit and see what I can find. You'll have to get the others from the original poster. PM him.
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Some stuff I found just googling:

Some 'evidence' that suggests he is a pirate:
http://magiciansthegathering.com/communi......hp?t=714

Some Sankey comment on fbook about DB created a stir (it's worth reading the comments):
https://www.facebook.com/disturbreality/......25995695

There some connected thing in magic weekly failure (?)
http://weeklymagicfailure.blogspot.co.uk......now.html

And this one is about it directly (seems sankey deleted the comment):
http://weeklymagicfailure.blogspot.co.uk......got.html

There is previous Café discussion here
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......&start=0

And Morelli is on one if his vids:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex4jHLm7SFY

There may be more, but I didn't have enough time to google more ...
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Note what 52Kards says in the thread linked above: 'Some reputable magicians such as Jay Sankey have even requested permission from me to have their content featured on my channel because they value the promotion they receive in return.'

Found the original fbook post thast I think Sankey deleted:
https://www.facebook.com/jay.sankey/posts/10151708392461259

"How often do you see magic performed with a REAL MESSAGE? Please watch this video. This young guy is really trying to do something postive with his magic. Gotta respect that! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_2xPX9xOPE"
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Thanks for the links TW. I stand corrected. Not good.
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He has a ten part video series on youtube. the last one has him wiping away magic related text on a whiteboard to replace it with a goal of getting into wrestling.

I don't understand the motivation that justifies giving away other people's work. Seems a strange interpretation of the line about knowing people by their works.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Indeed!

But why would an established magi give him their blessing? The most generous reason I can come up with is that they simply were ignorant of who they were dealing with and should have done more research. But the 52kards quote, IF true, hints at a much less palatable reason ...
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The fact that you can Google "Raven gimmick" and instantly see pictures of it is just evidence of the sad state of magic today.

Honestly, I don't see why the thing's so popular; the fraternity already had a better version for decades before. I've used the old Jack Miller Hold-out for years. It works for pretty much everything, and without a reset.

Meh.
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Disturb Reality is an abysmal channel. He should not be allowed to expose these things at all.
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We could all vote it thumbs down. Won't do much but might lower where it appears on YouTube.
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I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt, and say that he is misguided. I actually learned a lot from his channel in my early developments in magic. If he would only reveal tricks he came up with, then it would be just like the library magic book, but that is not the case unfortunately.
Reality is a real killjoy.
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Some ask why he does it??? Simple - money! If you get enough subscribers YouTube pays very well. I know a number of expats over here in te Philippines making expat videos. Most make little to no money. One of them makes $1,000 a month, with just over 10k subs. And guys like scam school and disturb reality have tons more subscribers... so it pays well. And scam school & distrub reality are 2 of the worst magic channels I have ever seen! (other than the reveal kiddies, of course).

Does not make it right.
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I'm afraid you are wrong about the subscriber thing. It is not based on subscribers. When you monetize a channel you make a unique deal with YouTube.
Reality is a real killjoy.
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I did crazy man's handcuffs at work, the other day. A trick I learned, honestly, years ago. First time I've performed in a long time. Within five minutes, they googled it and figured it out. I wasn't upset, just kinda disappointed that something that was once a cherished secret is now so available to the masses.
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On May 30, 2015, CRash5150 wrote:
I did crazy man's handcuffs at work, the other day...Within five minutes, they googled it and figured it out.


LOL! Welcome to the Café, Crash! Yep! That's why, after 40 years, my magic has changed...

Doug
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Thanks, Doug.
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Ya have to find unique stuff that is not on YouTube or Google-able. Old stuff. In books. Look around here:

http://search.slv.vic.gov.au/primo_libra......vid=MAIN

You'll be a while! LOL! Incredible collection! All free! Smile

Doug
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Thank you, sir. I also have tons of books myself. From Erdnase all the way to Paul Harris. Things I have mostly forgotten. Time to refresh.
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BTW, amazing photographs. I could spend all day, just looking at them.
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On Nov 12, 2014, Darcy.W wrote:
Jareks main passion is professional wrestling. I don't believe he takes his magic that seriously and doesn't really care about exposing effects if he believes it can help younger magicians who are more passionate than him.
Also I've personally found his teaching very helpful, especially his tips on performing, social dynamics, etc.


He is a loser. If the shoe was on the other foot and he was the creator and some idiot was revealing his product so others don't need to purchase his product, he would be livid!

I can't believe anyone would support this person.

Oh, he's ok, he kills puppies, but he's really a nice guy.

All I can say is "Charma's a b(#ch"

KJ
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