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Took my wife to see Kreskin ... He says he didn't hypnotize her ... But he did.
BTW ... She herself doesn't know anything about hypnotism and doesn't remember it at all. Still demands to see the pictures. She isn't lying.
What did Kreskin do to my wife? Smile
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Try the hypnosis section...

Posted: Nov 12, 2014 07:26 am And as if by magic...
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He didn't hypnotize her because according to him " it doesn't exist". Just like her memories of the whole event!

I never understood that line unless it was to avoid insurance liability or to create controversy....

Its like Mugging someone then telling them it doesn't exist. "It was just social compliance that made them hand over the wallet the gun had nothing to do with it!"
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Didn't he used to say he uses suggestion, and not hypnosis?
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Like Kreskin I have never hypnotised anyone. But plenty of people believe they have been hypnotised by me.
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Maybe you just believe you haven't hypnotized anyone and that they just pretend and fake amnesia? that's one hell of a belief.

My belief about Kreskin is that its is or was part of his attention seeking publicity.

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Didn't he used to say he uses suggestion, and not hypnosis?


Iain when was the last time someone suggested that you have full amnesia for two hours of doing things out of character with no Hypnotic process?

He uses suggestion of course he does suggestion is the building blocks of hypnosis. Hypnosis is the process suggestion is the combined actions that take you there.
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Just so you know, I'm not Kreskin, not even the real fake kreskin! though that is a great book..

no one has ever suggested to me that I've had full amnesia...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqNEEG7OKFk
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On Nov 11, 2014, Slim King wrote:
Took my wife to see Kreskin ... He says he didn't hypnotize her ... But he did.
BTW ... She herself doesn't know anything about hypnotism and doesn't remember it at all. Still demands to see the pictures. She isn't lying.
What did Kreskin do to my wife? Smile



I drove to that show, Dave. I had to leave before the hypnosis section though.
I have mixed feelings on hypnosis.

I've recently seen Tony's hypnosis show. Very entertaining. Most students that day really felt there were hypnotised, I know this because they came to my show later in the week & told me. Ultimately, does it matter whether they were hypnotised or not - they all had a great time.
Job done. Next show.

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On Nov 12, 2014, IAIN wrote:
Just so you know, I'm not Kreskin, not even the real fake kreskin! though that is a great book..

no one has ever suggested to me that I've had full amnesia...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqNEEG7OKFk



By the way I love Kreskin he used to be on at lunchtime when I was at school. And I would be late back in that afternoon. But what is he going on about? " he was just responding to suggestion" That doesn't make any sense and is so vague its meaningless. Hypnosis is the amplified process of responding to suggestion. As always this just ends up as argument about semantics.
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Wait a minute. I'm sure we've discussed this before. Didn't this happen back in June 2012?
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......art=60#4

Could it be that you're still searching for answers Slim?
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Yes ... It was the same show and I'm STILL BAFFLED!!!! I've read a lot about Hypnotism and purchased several educational DVD's.....AND at one time Kreskin claimed to be the worlds youngest hypnotist.
But knowing all of this I'm still wondering. My wife remembers little or nothing. The president of the IBM took many photo's and we have intentionally NOT shown them too her. It's almost an experiment now. We are going to show her the photo's soon and see if she remembers anything more.
My wife wouldn't play along and lie about it, which is what I one time thought many did ....However I'm confident this is not the case here.
So what DID HAPPEN?

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On Nov 11, 2014, Slim King wrote:
Took my wife to see Kreskin ... He says he didn't hypnotize her ... But he did.
BTW ... She herself doesn't know anything about hypnotism and doesn't remember it at all. Still demands to see the pictures. She isn't lying.
What did Kreskin do to my wife? Smile


I drove to that show, Dave. I had to leave before the hypnosis section though.
I have mixed feelings on hypnosis.

I've recently seen Tony's hypnosis show. Very entertaining. Most students that day really felt there were hypnotised, I know this because they came to my show later in the week & told me. Ultimately, does it matter whether they were hypnotised or not - they all had a great time.
Job done. Next show.

Robert.

I thought that we would have seen each other again somehow...perhaps in the future ...But I'm on a quest to get to the bottom of this ... Smile
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Did he find his paycheck?
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Did he find his paycheck?

yes ... But seeing this LIVE... I'm pretty confident that even I could do this with some practice. Nothing like seeing something in person.
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The man is indeed a legend.
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Yes ... It was the same show and I'm STILL BAFFLED!!!! I've read a lot about Hypnotism and purchased several educational DVD's.....AND at one time Kreskin claimed to be the worlds youngest hypnotist.
But knowing all of this I'm still wondering. My wife remembers little or nothing. The president of the IBM took many photo's and we have intentionally NOT shown them too her. It's almost an experiment now. We are going to show her the photo's soon and see if she remembers anything more.
My wife wouldn't play along and lie about it, which is what I one time thought many did ....However I'm confident this is not the case here.
So what DID HAPPEN?

She was hypnotized and experienced an altered state. An altered state is a natural occurrence whenever we experience anything out of the ordinary every day waking state.Whether it can be measured or not. (which can be)We experience altered states when we take alcohol, have sex, get engrossed in the creative process etc.. These are natural states nothing to do with supernatural which I think is where the arguments and divide begins on whether hypnosis exists or not. We need to agree on the basic definitions of things like "trance". Again its not supernatural its an every day occurrence. And normal.

Of course it exists you paid to see it your wife experienced it. That's all it is.

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On Dec 14, 2014, Slim King wrote:
Yes ... It was the same show and I'm STILL BAFFLED!!!! I've read a lot about Hypnotism and purchased several educational DVD's.....AND at one time Kreskin claimed to be the worlds youngest hypnotist.
But knowing all of this I'm still wondering. My wife remembers little or nothing. The president of the IBM took many photo's and we have intentionally NOT shown them too her. It's almost an experiment now. We are going to show her the photo's soon and see if she remembers anything more.
My wife wouldn't play along and lie about it, which is what I one time thought many did ....However I'm confident this is not the case here.
So what DID HAPPEN?

She was hypnotized and experienced an altered state. An altered state is a natural occurrence whenever we experience anything out of the ordinary every day waking state. Whether it can be measured or not. (which can be)We experience altered states when we take alcohol, have sex, get engrossed in the creative process etc.. These are natural states nothing to do with supernatural which I think is where the arguments and divide begins on whether hypnosis exists or not. We need to agree on the basic definitions of things like "trance". Again its not supernatural its an every day occurrence. And normal.

Of course it exists you paid to see it -- your wife experienced it. That's all it is. All this arguing that it doesn't exist is just silly


Posted: Dec 17, 2014 02:21 pm
Just a play on words or not knowing the basic definitions of the terms associated with hypnosis. And arguing about some super natural thing that doesn't exist in the definitions if you take the time to look them up.
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What happened to my wife wasn't natural in the least!!!!
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Didn't he used to say he uses suggestion, and not hypnosis?


Yes, something like that. End result appears to be the same.
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What happened to my wife wasn't natural in the least!!!!



It was manipulation of natural processes.Suggestions are the building blocks of hypnosis. Its like a builder saying they didn't use design or engineering they used bricks to build a beautiful building.

Manipulation of these processes is a natural thing and has been going on since the first religious leader or politician or advertising exec existed. Stage hypnosis is just a very dramatic demonstration of how easy and fast it can be done and out of an "everyday context". But its just how our minds work.
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I do not agree that amnesia is normal in a 39 year old person. Smile
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Its not "normal" I agree its an "altered state" but it is natural. No drugs were used.

Hypnosis was used -- you know that thing that doesn't exist?.. It doesn't exist to the point where it appears in every sentence even those that claim it doesn't exist. Maybe they have just hypnotized themselves to not see it. Or they have other agendas by making these claims.
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