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E.E. Inner circle Look mom, I have 1534 Posts 
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Hi guys.
A very good friend of mine, Andreu, show me an effect a couple of days ago. It is a Birthday Divination called "Astral Enigma" and I have to say I really liked it. It's very clean, and I have no idea how it works. He told me he will be releasing it soon. I'll post a review as soon as the effect is out. Regards!
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genius Loyal user 285 Posts
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Do you think it is cleaner than Atlas' free version he posted so generously on the Café?
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E.E. Inner circle Look mom, I have 1534 Posts
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Sincerely, Yes.
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts
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On Nov 15, 2014, genius wrote: Although Atlas' version is quite good, and I thank him for his present, I think it is quite convoluted, because your spectator has to do multiplications, answering questions and so on... Not so direct for this kind of effect. I am eager to see what Andreu came with.
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 4191 Posts
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When read on paper Atlas version may seem convoluted but in practice it takes seconds and is very vey clean. If you have even basic cold reading skills then the 3 simple calculations that the spectator has to do are fully justified and it's completely impossible to backtrack.
I'd be surprised if Astral Enigma is cleaner than CloudNine but I guess it depends on the price because with IS 2, Iunlock, Michael Murray's method and now CloudNine I don't need another date divination enough to spend more than a few dollars for curiosity. I also have the zen system and a few others but I don't use them. Mark |
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts
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Indeed, Murray's method is wonderful!
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Relick666 Special user 604 Posts
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Good evening, gentlemen!
Astral Enigma is very clean and simple to do. 
Also, there are no forces involved. I'm just taking care of its grammar and creating a nice cover for it before releasing. Best regards, Andrue. |
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JoelDickinson Inner circle UK 1582 Posts
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Sounds great. How practical is this?
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Relick666 Special user 604 Posts
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On Nov 15, 2014, JoelDickinson wrote: Hi Joel, You can perform this via Skype / phone call and it works in all languages, so it's very practical. Price won't be high as there are a lot of approaches out there already and I want more people to become familiar with my way of thinking. Yes there is math involved but the steps are very simple to follow and your spec can use a smartphone, which in these modern tech days is something fairly common. 
Andreu. |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12968 Posts
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For me Joel's horosecrets is my kind of effect to divine a sign. It can be built into any routine and there is no math. Some but none to even talk about.
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Relick666 Special user 604 Posts
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On Nov 15, 2014, John C wrote: Ok, but Astral Enigma is a birthday divination, not a sign divination. Just thought I'd clarify there is a difference between the 2 type of effects. Best regards, Andreu. |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts
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Hi Andreu,
You say the spec can use a smart phone. Do they HAVE to use some form of calculator, or is it potentially prop less? Regards, Martin |
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 4191 Posts
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Alas the youth of today need a smart phone with a calculator for anything more challenging than 2+2
Mark |
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Relick666 Special user 604 Posts
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On Nov 16, 2014, Martin Pulman wrote: This would actually depend on your presentation, but as Mark pointed out some need it for something harder than just regular operations lol, so I prefer that they use it. The principle used is really cool and I haven't seen it mentioned before, so I'm happy to release this soon. Best regards, Andreu. |
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JoelDickinson Inner circle UK 1582 Posts
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I'm looking forward to reading more details about it.
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts
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Thanks Andreu, I was just checking if it was potentially the same as an unpublished method that uses a smart phone to achieve the effect. It would seem it isn't. I look forward to checking it out.
Regards, Martin |
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Magic.Maddy Inner circle 1861 Posts
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Hmmm, I don't think I'm going to like this one. Sounds like there's complicated maths and will probably be similar to items put out by Gerard Zitta. I guess we'll see soon.
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Adrien L. Elite user 479 Posts
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My question is: do we need to "disguise" it as a reading and, at the end, reveal their birthday as a kicker? Most birthday divinations I have seen kinda require this approach.
Could we approach the spectator and say "I'm going to divine your birthday" and perform this effect? Not that I would approach someone like that, but I'm not too comfortable with readings (yet  ) and I was just wondering.
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Michael Zarek Special user Sweden 923 Posts
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On Nov 17, 2014, Adrien Lochon wrote: If you want than Michael Murray has a propless birthdate divination in his book that works like that.
Reader discretion is advised.
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 4191 Posts
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I nailed 4 birthdays one after the other a few nights ago, one used iunlock, one used Michael Murray's, one used Atlas' method and the other one simply gentle fi***ng. Once you know someone's star sign it's very easy to narrow it down with very little p**p**g.
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